http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070530/strong_toddler_070530/20070530?hub=Health

Damn, I wish I was as lucky as him :( This kid has a bright future :nod:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070530/strong_toddler_070530/20070530?hub=Health

Damn, I wish I was as lucky as him :( This kid has a bright future :nod:

Does anybody know of any adults with this condition? I'd be curious as to how an adult would be...in terms of size and strength, relative to an average person.

Amazing:blank:

Does anybody know of any adults with this condition? I'd be curious as to how an adult would be...in terms of size and strength, relative to an average person.

Here's an adult cow with it :D

http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/150/neuro/belgian.blue.jpg

Here's an adult cow with it :D

http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/150/neuro/belgian.blue.jpg

Whoa -- The Ronnie Coleman of the bovine world!

Oh my god. That would make it so easy.

I have to admit I'm jealous =D

I'm sure there are downsides or negatives associated with it (it says no known side effects, but being different is always a pain)...

I just read that Flex Wheeler has some myostatin abnormality as well ... Not sure if it is exactly the same condition that this kid has though. In any case, it is still hard to compare...because we can't really know how much of his muscularity is due to the myostatin abnormality vs. steroids, growth hormone, and all the other crap that pro BBers inject in order to increase their muscularity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flex_Wheeler

Oh my god. That would make it so easy.

I have to admit I'm jealous =D

I'm sure there are downsides or negatives associated with it (it says no known side effects, but being different is always a pain)...

It's weird, even though it says no known side effects, it said that it seems to cause naturally very low body fat. Which for a developing person, it says, is bad because fat is needed in a baby for brain and nervous system development. It said he's "well below average" for height, weight, and head circumference.

But those things aside, I wonder if this could be figured out somehow, and then given to a person after they've physically grown and matured. Since it has "no known side effects"... :D

It's weird, even though it says no known side effects, it said that it seems to cause naturally very low body fat. Which for a developing person, it says, is bad because fat is needed in a baby for brain and nervous system development. It said he's "well below average" for height, weight, and head circumference.

But those things aside, I wonder if this could be figured out somehow, and then given to a person after they've physically grown and matured. Since it has "no known side effects"... :D

It is science fiction at this point to edit someones genes or DNA after the fact...But they ARE working on it.

The theory is more to help people with genetic diseases/abnormalities fix it and avoid the trouble, but I don't know why it couldn't be done as more of a plastic surgery type procedure.

I can see movie stars 'getting this done' if it was commercially available.

But the sports world makes it tricky - it obviously would be unfair for someone to 'have this done' and then compete in sports. People who didn't have it done wouldn't be competitive. Which then says, are people who are natural mutants 'cheating' to compete? They obviously have a huge unfair advantage, but it is how they were born!

It is tricky =D

I don't think you can alter/change your DNA after you're born. Though you can screen for genetic abnormalities etc... when the baby is conceived.

I don't think you can alter/change your DNA after you're born. Though you can screen for genetic abnormalities etc... when the baby is conceived.


I could see if you used a series of mutations on a dna strand, but getting it to evenly distribute over an entire organism not so sure.

You can do stuff to a single perhaps multiple stands, but a multicellular organism with hundreds of millions of cells...not so possible in the near future. :confused:

Of course there is a side effect. Undoubtedly he will not live to a typical expected age if he has a condition like this. There's always something nefarious going on, even if science doesn't know it yet.

Here's an interesting question. If he proves athletic, he would have an undeniable edge in competitions. I wonder if he'd be allowed to play competitive sports. I'm thinking the Olympics would likely be out, but that raises an interesting hypothetical question of whether a person born with this type of advantage can perform in the Olympics versus a "normal" person with no specific genetic advantage such as this.

One could argue that Olympians are already genetically advantaged. Is this really that different? Time will tell I guess.

Of course there is a side effect. Undoubtedly he will not live to a typical expected age if he has a condition like this. There's always something nefarious going on, even if science doesn't know it yet.

I'm pretty sure without bodyfat, he's going to have to live in warmer climates (good timing with global warming ;) ). Winter is going to be uncomfortable for him if he tried to move north.

I'm pretty sure without bodyfat, he's going to have to live in warmer climates (good timing with global warming ;) ). Winter is going to be uncomfortable for him if he tried to move north.

We'll be safe in Manitoba then. Though he might come up and terrorize powerlifting meets in the summer. :eek:

Here's an interesting question. If he proves athletic, he would have an undeniable edge in competitions. I wonder if he'd be allowed to play competitive sports. I'm thinking the Olympics would likely be out, but that raises an interesting hypothetical question of whether a person born with this type of advantage can perform in the Olympics versus a "normal" person with no specific genetic advantage such as this.

One could argue that Olympians are already genetically advantaged. Is this really that different? Time will tell I guess.


There'd be no way they could ban somebody for their genes. This isn't Gattaca. That would open all kinds of discrimination possibilities.

There'd be no way they could ban somebody for their genes.

I think it's been done, and probably more than once. The chromosome tests for women's competition are basically just that. There are some medical conditions (androgen insensitivity) that people who had XY chromosomes, but appeared female, which used to be disqualifying from competing in women's athletics, but under certain circumstances, those people can now compete. Michelle Dumaresq is an example.

So yeah, people get banned for their genes. Anyone who has a genetic disease which requires lifesaving treatment with a banned substance would be in that position. I don't know offhand of any example, but there should be some.

Wait until he hits the terrible twos:eek: I can't imagine what it's like trying to chase after him, make him eat his vegetables, make him take a bath, etc...:scared:

I think it's been done, and probably more than once. The chromosome tests for women's competition are basically just that. There are some medical conditions (androgen insensitivity) that people who had XY chromosomes, but appeared female, which used to be disqualifying from competing in women's athletics, but under certain circumstances, those people can now compete. Michelle Dumaresq is an example.

So yeah, people get banned for their genes. Anyone who has a genetic disease which requires lifesaving treatment with a banned substance would be in that position. I don't know offhand of any example, but there should be some.

I can understand an XY chromosomed "woman" being banned, or the substance use itself being banned even if it was gene required, but not a "strong man" type gene.

Probably most of the truly elite athletes have had some kind of genetic lottery winnings in their makeups. Armstrong with his bone structure, heart size, capacity for endurance, Jordan for height, explosiveness, hand/eye, etc. Where do you draw the line if you start this?

I don't think anyone is going to have to worry about what to do with a surplus of people like this. The article says that there have only been ~100 documented cases of people with this condition...ever.

In the past, conditions like this and others similar probably explain some of the legends in many different cultures of extremely strong "super" people, like in mythology and religion. These legends gave birth to modern day comic books. Think of the movie, Unbreakable.