Ok....I'm trying to cut out milk, but I've found that using water is painfully bland. It tastes like very bad flavored water. I posted this question in the 'fat loss' forum, but it's burried in another post.....so I thought I'd bring it to the appropriate forum:

How do you make a protien shake that tastes good, without using milk, and without needing a blender? I'm on the go alot, and usually don't have time to mix with a blender. Any thoughts? :confused:

Soy Milk.
I REALLY like the Very Vanilla Silk
its awesome, I use 8oz of that, a banana and 1/4 cup of soy protein - tastes like liquid pudding.

I thought soy increased estrogen levels, though. Isn't tha bad for muscle gain?

I saw a study refuting that, but I'm not sure

Oh there is so much anti-soy propaganda. And you know who promotes it? Companies that are affiliated with sales of non-soy protein powders.

Soy has been extensively studied not just in the United States but around the world. And the studies I am aware of that indicate any type of detrimental effect include:

1. People who PRIMARILY consume soy. I'm sure you'll find that if your primary source is anything - from red meat to chicken. It's variety that is key, and not getting overly dependent on one single source.

2. Babies fed soy formula. Soy is not a complete meal for the human body, never was intended to be. Of course, if you made almond milk or corn milk or anything like that and exclusively fed it to a baby, they'd have issues as well. There is a huge difference between a developing infant consuming only one item and an adult who is supplementing a diet with additional protein.

As for proteins in water, you'll have to pay good dollar for good protein. It depends on if you are cost-conscious or value-conscious. If you just worry about cost then you can pay cheap and get the dirt and some will taste fine, others won't. If you want value then you will pay a little more for protein powders that are much superior quality and taste better. Personally, I don't see the NEED to have a higher quality protein powder if it is just supplemental - I say find something that tastes good and fits your budget. However, what I find to be the best tasting protein powder in the WORLD is from a company called Beverly International. Do a web search on Ultra Size (meal replacement) or Muscle Provider (protein powder). These things are hella-good!

Jeremy

I've also heard about Beverly tasting the best, but it's pricey.

What kind of protien are you using now that tastes bad in water?

Optimum Nutrition Whey Protein + Ice Cold water = Amazing

That's all I can say. I used to try my other brands with water and seriously almost threw up. Then I started using ON and was reluctant to try it, but I did. Threw ice cold water in my shaker bottle (8-10oz) and 1 scoop of Choc. Mint ON Whey, shake and DAMN IT'S GOOD! I've been doing this now every day for a month. I don't consume ANY milk.

I make my protein shakes with water aswell. I just shake it in a bottle with cold water.
Lately I've been adding a bit more milk into it, and it tastes excellent.
It probably depends on what powder your using for taste I'm guessing.

For those of you who use ON, which do you use (regardless of flavor):

100% Whey Protein
Natural 100% Whey Protein
Pro Complex
Natural Pro Complex

After Jeremy's awesome response to my multivitamin question, I'm considering dumping my Isopure with the "vitamin spray".

I've used the ON Natural Pro Complex in the past, but it has the vitamins and costs a boatload. I've been paying $62 for a 7.5 lb tub of Isopure ($69 w/ 4-5 day UPS shipping).

Or should I try ATW?

(Btw, Isopure is great in water. I only use water because, hey, we all complain about the cost of the protein then proceed to use milk, soy milk, bananas, etc. to increase the costs of our shakes.)