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Should a NO2-type product be used as a daily supplement, or is it preferable (or advantageous) to only use it on lifting days?

I did find posts relating to some people "becoming accustomed" to having the NO2 in their system... so will restricting its usage to only those days when it will have the most benefit diminish this effect? Or is it similar to creatine, where maintaining a consistantly elevated level is advantageous?

I think it depends on what you want. NO2 basically just gives you a bigger "pump"....and if you take it every day, you can experience a slight pump pretty much all the time. If you take it only on workout days, the increased vascularity/pump etc. will be restricted to the days you work out.

I tried some NO2 products a little bit ago to see whether they would help me gain some strength. They didn't do that, but they did increase vascularity/muscle size....which promptly went away once I stopped taking them.

Did a search but didn't find a direct answer for this question:

Should a NO2-type product be used as a daily supplement, or is it preferable (or advantageous) to only use it on lifting days?


It should be never used. The research isn't there and anecdotal evidence is questionable/placebo effect. I wouldn't waste the money.

The research isn't there and anecdotal evidence is questionable/placebo effect. I wouldn't waste the money.
Riiight. Supplement research is far too biased to be of much worth. One might gather a little personal empirical evidence before issuing said hairtrigger opine. :rolleyes:

Philly, try 2-g three times a day or 3-g twice per day. I utilize the latter on lifting days only.

-R

Riiight. Supplement research is far too biased to be of much worth. One might gather a little personal empirical evidence before issuing said hairtrigger opine. :rolleyes:

Philly, try 2-g three times a day or 3-g twice per day. I utilize the latter on lifting days only.

-R


Thanks Roger... see you in a few weeks. :eat: :flex: :eat:

Riiight. Supplement research is far too biased to be of much worth. One might gather a little personal empirical evidence before issuing said hairtrigger opine. :rolleyes:

Philly, try 2-g three times a day or 3-g twice per day. I utilize the latter on lifting days only.

-R

If you'd take the time t browse the readily available empirical research on supplements, you would find that many have been studied quite well (glucosamine, b12, vintamins a-z, protein/glucose, gingko, etc). Some are found to be effective, some not. Some double-blind studies, some rather shoddy. And yes, some biased, and some are very well-respected, independently funded.

Sigh. This topic has been covered here ad nauseum.

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=556124
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=556939

Check the reference sections of both articles. I have.

FWIW, while I don't use any of their products, wouldn't you think biotest would have come out with a NO2 product if it were effective? It's not like they couldn't market it, like GNC and all the rest do. It would sell, of course. But the others don't need science to back up their claims.

If you'd take the time t browse the readily available empirical research on supplements, you would find that many have been studied quite well (glucosamine, b12, vintamins a-z, protein/glucose, gingko, etc). Some are found to be effective, some not. Some double-blind studies, some rather shoddy. And yes, some biased, and some are very well-respected, independently funded.

Sigh. This topic has been covered here ad nauseum.

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=556124
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=556939

Check the reference sections of both articles. I have.

FWIW, while I don't use any of their products, wouldn't you think biotest would have come out with a NO2 product if it were effective? It's not like they couldn't market it, like GNC and all the rest do. It would sell, of course. But the others don't need science to back up their claims.


I had to get to the second article before I got the pitch for Surge. :lol:

It should be never used. The research isn't there and anecdotal evidence is questionable/placebo effect. I wouldn't waste the money.

I wouldn't say it should "never be used". It depends on what you really want -- I experienced no increases in strength or endurance, but I did notice a slight increase in size which was verfied by measurements. Once I quit taking the product, the size measurements returned to normal. I took measurements with myotape, so I don't think those were placebo.

I have very little interest in size gains (I train for strength), so I don't think I'll take NO2 products in the future given that they did not help my strength.