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HevyMetal March 30th, 2007, 06:51 PM Is this ex a suitable stand-in for the 20 rep breathing Squat?
Grip strength is not a problem at lesser weights.
Anyway, I have hooks to get me through it if need be.
Tried a set of 20 rep breathing partials today. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
A set of 20 rep full Deads..am I asking for trouble?
I'd be monitoring the amount of weight closely. Don't expect to do this at or near max tho'
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chicanerous March 30th, 2007, 06:54 PM I'm not a fan. The risk of injury to the back when in an extended state of fatigue is too great. Personally, though I've done breathing squats in the past, I don't really like the method even for squats, but then my focus is on strength, rather than hypertrophy.
tennisball March 30th, 2007, 07:26 PM I'm not a fan. The risk of injury to the back when in an extended state of fatigue is too great. Personally, though I've done breathing squats in the past, I don't really like the method even for squats, but then my focus is on strength, rather than hypertrophy.
Is it possible, given the recommendation of a 10RM for the back squat program? I did the squats a couple times, and while it was great for hyperventilation, I wasn't convinced. As for deadlift, you might be stuck doing singles for 10 minutes.
dluc March 30th, 2007, 07:30 PM As for deadlift, you might be stuck doing singles for 10 minutes.
I had a friend who attempted 20 rep deads once and this was the case after the first 10 or so reps. He'd drop the bar, step back, do a rep, drop and repeat until he got to 20. He described it as a very grueling process, and said that if he ever decided to do it again, he'd use much less weight.
chicanerous March 30th, 2007, 07:40 PM Is it possible, given the recommendation of a 10RM for the back squat program? I did the squats a couple times, and while it was great for hyperventilation, I wasn't convinced. As for deadlift, you might be stuck doing singles for 10 minutes.
Yeah, that's basically what happens. If you're going to do it and want a better parallel to the 20-rep squat, I'd probably say get some straps and hold it at the top between reps. Honestly though, I'd say, other than trying breathing squats just for the experience, don't do either of them; use a squat or dead specialization program instead and eat well.
betastas March 30th, 2007, 08:26 PM I wouldn't advocate anyone doing 20 rep breathing deadlifts. While you can apply the 20 rep squat principle to many exercises, there are few that are really worthwhile. With a squat, it's easier to keep the back straight and the load properly centered.
The deadlift is a great exercise to wreck yourself on. I've met a surprisingly high number of people who have done deadlifts with submaximal weight, become fatigued and then proceed to injure themselves. I have yet to meet one person injure themselves attempting a 1RM or doing a heavy single. Those injuries do exist, without a doubt, but my empirical observations lead me to claim that high rep deadlifts are a bad idea.
zenpharaohs March 30th, 2007, 10:31 PM Is this ex a suitable stand-in for the 20 rep breathing Squat?
Sort of. Once you get a little trained up then it's all about your grip. With hooks or straps it should be OK.
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