Hi all, i really need some help right now so please bear with me.

Backstory :

Summer of 2006 i responded to an ad in a university forum that 3 roomates were looking for someone else for the school year (Sum 06 to Sum 07). I was looking for a place so i responded. I met the guys, all went well, and the lease was signed and i moved in.

Things went well supposedly, as there are always issues between ppl regarding life style/messiness/food/etc.

We had a group meeting Sep 06 where we ironed out the issues. The main issue they had with me was that i was not as clean as them. I said to them that, "i am sorry that we arent on the same level. If something is messy to you, please tell me asap and i will clean it asap"
That was basically it.

Fast forward to 3 days ago.

It turns out they were having secret meeting/emails about me and deciding whether to kick me out, citing things like cleanliness, personality (:?!?!) and a bunch of other excuses (bullshit) like that.
That night they tell me of their decision and that i have to leave.

At this point im in near tears. Basically, i am trying to graduate with a chemical engineering degree that normally takes 5 years... in 4 years. I have class over 40 hours a week; NOT taking into account hw, studying etc. I tell them that i have always cleaned up when they felt like i have made a 'mess', and that i have never done anything maliciously, or broken any rules for that matter.

Still, they dont care.

The next day, i decide to take matters into my own matters and i consulted a lawyer, and we have a meeting on Wed to see if they can do this to me.

I also want to add that i dont drink, smoke, get high, have people over, use other peoples stuff w/o asking, play music too loud. My life right now is studying my ass off, and in my spare time, working out and keeping to a cutting diet.

What should i do to prepare myself or to help my situation?

I have already have a Q and A with one of the room-mates, having him sign a document that all the answers were his words ( i asked him EVERYTHING regarding if i helped, if i made a mess, if i was threatened or hit anybody)

I am planning on doing this with the other two as well.

I have a copy of the lease that we all signed saying that the lease lasts until august 1.


I also have been reading some forums that state you cant kick a roomate out if you are all co-tenants, UNLESS you specifically make a death-type threat or hit another roomate. That is why i specifically asked that question, to which he said "no". In fact, he said that i threateningly walked up to one roomate and called him a 'bitch'. (which i did, i was mad that he would talk to me about our conflicts, but would instead email the other 2 instead). However, he also said that, "i did not explicity threaten to hit, hurt, kick, or engage in any physical activity nor have i ever hit him or anyone in the past."

Thanks for reading this guys, and offerering any advice you may have.

I am perfectly willing to live in my 1/2 of the room... im in class 8-6 every M-F and i would keep quiet, not talk to anyone... but even this is not up to their standards.

As a landlord, I can give you my perspective. I have roommates in my house, and I rent out a condo I own. I've had a couple of roommates recently that reminded me of your situation. I just didn't like them, everything they did bugged me, and I wanted them out. I don't know all the details of your situation, but they sound similar.
Both roommates had annoying little habits. For example, one would blow his nose in the shower, not realizing that the sounds in the shower were amplified and I heard him every time. I'm sure he never realized what he was doing, and how disgusting that was to me. At that point, he had no hope of winning me over. Every minute little thing he did got on my nerves. Becuase we weren't really friends either, that made it harder.
I guess the point of this long-winded story is that sometimes you're just not compatible. It sounds like you may have had some oversight as a roommate at some point, and because you're all not friends, they feel no need or desire to overlook it. They just want someone else who is going to mesh better, and who they will get along with better. However, they can't kick you out if you have a lease, and you haven't specifically violated the lease. I would strongly suggest looking for a new place, b/c it's obviously not working out for anyone. But in the meantime, however long that is, don't worry about being homeless, because the laws are set up to prevent that.

thank you:)

I have never been in such a situtation. The only thing I can suggest and you should check with lawyer. If they want you out, make them pay 2 months rent or more for your relocation and expenses. This assumes you are on firm ground with lease.

Yeah...unless you are violating the rules of the lease, you should be safe legally...at least from my admittedly paltry understanding of the law. However, I wouldn't want to live in a house full of people who dislike me, so if I were you, I'd look for a new place. If you are too busy to do that now, tell them you'll leave once your lease expires....or, if they are so desperate to have you out of the house, make them find you a new apt., make arrangements, and help you move.

who signed the lease with the actual landlord? Did you sign a seperate lease with the 2 individual roommates or did you rework their original lease?

Regardless, I would imagine in a "2 to 1" situation, the "two" win for financial reasons. The landlord wants to keep renting, and if those guys have been good tenants, I'd imagine he'll side with them and give you the boot.

Furthermore, you mention the 3 of you aren't "friends" per say, just roommates. No problem, I've got the same situation and am happy with it! That said, it's worth mentioning that you called this person a "bitch" for some insignificant reason. It's one thing for good friends to exchange words, but to me, an acquaintance saying such things is unnacceptable. I would've thrown your ass to the curb that moment, possibly in addition to some other actions based on your size:lol:.

Look, I don't know you and I'm not passing judgements on you. But I do sense a few things just from this post that maybe you should consider. First, control your temper and watch your words. Calling a man a "bitch" is no insignificant event, and I'd imagine it had something to do with the end result here. Also, your roommates suggesting your personality doesn't mesh with them is not "bs." Thats a valid concern! Roommates, in most living situations, spend an asbsurd amount of time together, like it or not. If you're personalities clash, life=shit for everyone.

In the end, just chalk it up as a learning experience. Be more careful with your words next time. Me and my rooomate exchange literally 5 words a day and live in the same small condo. He's got his thing, I've got mine. We live together for financial reasons and we both accept that. It works great! Maybe in the future you should attempt a similiar situation. Good luck!

EDIT: What you mean you have "class 40 hours a week" and homework? Your in a classroom studying 40 hours a week? Are you an American? I've never heard of such a thing....

rtestes is right. I would see if you can get some compensation for relocation. Things will never be right where you are living, and all little problems will only escalate into larger ones.

For your own peace of mind and well being, move out.

who signed the lease with the actual landlord? Did you sign a seperate lease with the 2 individual roommates or did you rework their original lease?

Regardless, I would imagine in a "2 to 1" situation, the "two" win for financial reasons. The landlord wants to keep renting, and if those guys have been good tenants, I'd imagine he'll side with them and give you the boot.

Furthermore, you mention the 3 of you aren't "friends" per say, just roommates. No problem, I've got the same situation and am happy with it! That said, it's worth mentioning that you called this person a "bitch" for some insignificant reason. It's one thing for good friends to exchange words, but to me, an acquaintance saying such things is unnacceptable. I would've thrown your ass to the curb that moment, possibly in addition to some other actions based on your size:lol:.

Look, I don't know you and I'm not passing judgements on you. But I do sense a few things just from this post that maybe you should consider. First, control your temper and watch your words. Calling a man a "bitch" is no insignificant event, and I'd imagine it had something to do with the end result here. Also, your roommates suggesting your personality doesn't mesh with them is not "bs." Thats a valid concern! Roommates, in most living situations, spend an asbsurd amount of time together, like it or not. If you're personalities clash, life=shit for everyone.

In the end, just chalk it up as a learning experience. Be more careful with your words next time. Me and my rooomate exchange literally 5 words a day and live in the same small condo. He's got his thing, I've got mine. We live together for financial reasons and we both accept that. It works great! Maybe in the future you should attempt a similiar situation. Good luck!

EDIT: What you mean you have "class 40 hours a week" and homework? Your in a classroom studying 40 hours a week? Are you an American? I've never heard of such a thing....

Thanks for the candid words.

I shouldnt have called him a bitch, but you have to understand, he would NEVER talk to me about things he did not like (we are in the same room). Instead, he would email and tell the OTHER roomates about things he didnt like about me, WITHOUT telling me ever!! Then, 2 weeks later I have the other guys telling me whats wrong. I cannot stand people who arent honest with me. I told him from the start, if you dont like something i do, just tell me right there and i will do my best to make it better. I think thats a good policy.

Also, they said our personalities dont mesh. I dont give a flying shit either way. Just b/c we dont have the same hobbies doesnt mean that we have to live apart.

By 40 hours, i mean i have to be in lecture for 42 hours. Then, i go home and do hw/study etc.


To end this post, all went 'well'. I got an affadivit from all of them, and told them i dont give a fuck what they think b/c i tried my best to make it work and now i dont care and they have no legal ground to kick me out. Yeah im being an ass, but it isnt fair as far as i am concered. I truly gave all i could to live up to 'their' expectations, but they told me last night they only care about the end effect, not the effort put in

Everyone here is giving you really excellent advice about legal issues and other considerations.

This is completely tangential, and I know you do not have much time, but I might try, if I were you, to get into some group therapy. I was a terrible roommate when I was younger and I had no idea why people didn't like living with me. I had no idea of the personality clashes I created. I had very little sensitivity to other people's feelings because I just didn't know better. I grew up in a house where people were basically mean to each other, competitive and spiteful. Surviving that environment was an accomplishment in itself but it created a very distorted impression of what collaborative behavior was like or even desirable.

Lots of therapy and lots of Patience and a good husband who was willing to make the effort to teach me graciousness made me a much easier person to live with, both professionally and personally. But I really came from a perspective of not having a clue.

I understand that you are under an enormous amount of stress right now and figuring out social niceties is probably the last on your list of priorities and there;s no room on your plate for that.

But what I would do, as inconvenient as it is, is try to find a room in a house where you have little contact with others and basically living alone. I would take advantage of Rtestes recommendation and present your roommates that you'll move if they move you out and maybe even help find a place. And then I would see if the campus health services has any group therapy sessions going. You are not alone with this issue and once a week group won;t take too much of your time and give you feedback and fuel for though in the back of your mind while your studies are more forefront.

There are tons of studies that show that success professionally is only loosely related to talent, skill and intelligence, That most overarching earmark of success is "affability" the ability to get along with others. It was the result of these studies that books such as Emotional IQ came out.

The sooner you get going in learning to see human interaction in a different way, the easier your life will be. I cannot tell you the huge price I paid throughout my career because I did not understand the sensitivities of my actions. I had no idea how to "read between the lines", body language and so forth. I would make critical social mistakes at important career junctures while I thought I was adhering to good principles of fairness and justice.

Don't pay the price I did. :nope:

Things went well supposedly, as there are always issues between ppl regarding life style/messiness/food/etc.


I don't want to give any legal advice on the issue, but I would reccommend in the future that you keep your room neater. I don't want to sound like your mom or anything, but I used to be very messy. My dorm room freshman year of college was a total mess and this probably contributed to my first roommate and I not getting along at all. When you keep your room neater not only will your roommates respond to you better, but you'll feel a sense of satisfaction in having a clean room, and people who come over will admire your room more.

You can't just volunteer to clean the room when you're asked, you need to take the initiative to keep the room clean.