View Full Version : If not a Titan....


pcotten
Wed, December 6th, 2006, 08:27 PM
I was looking to buy a Titan soon but I hear rumors of being relocated by the employer. Don't want to lug that thing around, especially not knowing which house I would end up buying and if there would be enough space for it.

So far have 300-lb weight set. What machine/rack comes close to Titan in offering the ability to do as many exercises as possible?

Would the following be a good choice?

http://www.powertecfitness.com/workbench_multi_sysn.htm

Anything else? Thanks.

CTS
Wed, December 6th, 2006, 08:43 PM
I was looking to buy a Titan soon but I hear rumors of being relocated by the employer. Don't want to lug that thing around, especially not knowing which house I would end up buying and if there would be enough space for it.

So far have 300-lb weight set. What machine/rack comes close to Titan in offering the ability to do as many exercises as possible?

Would the following be a good choice?

http://www.powertecfitness.com/workbench_multi_sysn.htm

Anything else? Thanks.

I'd stick with free weights over the leverage machine. And besides, the powertec occupies just as much, if not more, floor space than the Titan. To tell you the truth, I'm not sure the Bodysolid Series 7 and a set of dumbbells doesn't come close to what the Titan offers. I think the only exercises you get more with the Titan are assisted dips and pullups and cable cross exercises.

BusyDizzyIzzy
Sat, December 16th, 2006, 01:22 PM
I was looking to buy a Titan soon but I hear rumors of being relocated by the employer. Don't want to lug that thing around, especially not knowing which house I would end up buying and if there would be enough space for it.

So far have 300-lb weight set. What machine/rack comes close to Titan in offering the ability to do as many exercises as possible?

Would the following be a good choice?

http://www.powertecfitness.com/workbench_multi_sysn.htm

Anything else? Thanks.

Any good quality rack/lat attachment combo will offer all the excercises that the Titan will. True space ASSEMBLED will probably be about the same as a Titan, but at about 500 less pounds. And much easier to break down,box up and ship. Lamar and Nautilus make 2 fine power cage w/cable lat&row machines.

Andrew
Sat, December 16th, 2006, 03:49 PM
How long is it until you'll know for sure if you're staying/going?

If I were you I'd just get a power rack or join a gym for a little while...

HobbesAB
Sun, December 17th, 2006, 10:16 AM
Any good quality rack/lat attachment combo will offer all the excercises that the Titan will.

The base Titan seems to offers quite a bit more:

http://www.fitcore.com/knowbase/faqs1.htm

6. What is the base Titan capable of?
A base Titan offers far more exercises than any competing machine on the market. Some of the most compelling features not found on any competing product in the Titan’s category are:

Seated Leg Press (high and low position)
Vertical Leg Press and
Smith Hybrid Technology;
These allow the included base attachments (i.e. comforpad shoulder supports for safe and stress free machine squats). Complete adjustability accommodates different user sizes and heights, with attachments locking precisely into place for customized workouts.

Also, the base Titan is capable of assisted pull-ups to increase the reps of an experienced fitness enthusiast or allow children, teenagers and less strong individuals in the family to perform this exercise where otherwise they would not be able to.

tsg2513
Sun, December 17th, 2006, 10:31 AM
I have the Lamar Smith/ Functional Trainer Combo that I highly recommend. It is an extremely well-built and versatile piece. Here is a photo of it.

zenpharaohs
Sun, December 17th, 2006, 12:15 PM
How tall is it? I have a really low ceiling.

tsg2513
Sun, December 17th, 2006, 12:45 PM
It is 81 inches at the tallest section.

BusyDizzyIzzy
Sun, December 17th, 2006, 07:41 PM
The base Titan seems to offers quite a bit more:

http://www.fitcore.com/knowbase/faqs1.htm

6. What is the base Titan capable of?
A base Titan offers far more exercises than any competing machine on the market. Some of the most compelling features not found on any competing product in the Titan’s category are:

Seated Leg Press (high and low position)
Vertical Leg Press and
Smith Hybrid Technology;
These allow the included base attachments (i.e. comforpad shoulder supports for safe and stress free machine squats). Complete adjustability accommodates different user sizes and heights, with attachments locking precisely into place for customized workouts.

Also, the base Titan is capable of assisted pull-ups to increase the reps of an experienced fitness enthusiast or allow children, teenagers and less strong individuals in the family to perform this exercise where otherwise they would not be able to.

In all honesty the Titan doesnt really offer anything of significance over a traditional power rack and free weight excercises other than a hefty pricetag. Assisted pullups? Better off doing negative pullups on the rack until you can do your own bodyweight. That combined with work on a traditional lat tower is all that is needed.

I had a chance to work out on a Titan for a week at a friends house a few months back. Its a nice machine, but it honestly offered me 0 over a good quality power rack with a good assortment of freeweights. Alot of the excercises on the Titan are pure "fluff".

As for the leg press feature. I would prefer doing traditional squats and lunges inside a cage. And to be honest, you can get a superior leg press machine, power rack w/lat attachment, calf machine and few other accesories and still save over $1000 over the price of the Titan.

zenpharaohs
Sun, December 17th, 2006, 07:48 PM
It is 81 inches at the tallest section.

Yeah it looked nice and low, but not low enough. I have a 78 inch ceiling.

zenpharaohs
Sun, December 17th, 2006, 07:52 PM
In all honesty the Titan doesnt really offer anything of significance over a traditional power rack and free weight excercises

It's got those cables. There's a lot of stuff you can get from cables that are kind of hard to do with freeweights even if you know a lot of odd freeweight tricks.

BusyDizzyIzzy
Mon, December 18th, 2006, 02:19 AM
It's got those cables. There's a lot of stuff you can get from cables that are kind of hard to do with freeweights even if you know a lot of odd freeweight tricks.

Like what? Tell me what excercises are superior for the body with the Titan that I can't do with my own freeweights or with the rack w/lat attachment system.....

Hellsing
Tue, December 26th, 2006, 12:16 PM
Like what? Tell me what excercises are superior for the body with the Titan that I can't do with my own freeweights or with the rack w/lat attachment system.....

I am not here to pick a fight, but I do want to respond to some of your comments/questions.

Leg Press, Vertical Leg Press, Seated Calf Press (w/ Leg Press machine), and Calf Raises w/ Smith Machine, to name a few, are some of the exercises that come standard on the Titan. There aren’t too many racks that offer that kind of extensible feature set.

An attachment system isn’t terrible; to claim that the quality of that equipment would be comparable to the Titan would be dubious. There ARE high-quality attachment systems out there, but they come at a price point similar to the Titan’s.

Then there’s the issue of a smith machine. YOU might not want it or see the value in a well designed smith machine, but for many people, including myself, it’s a piece of gym equipment I cannot live without. I use the smith machine as a compliment for all of my workouts. All of my power movements (bench, squat, and dead-lift) are executed using the barbell and the spotters that come with the Titan. It does take some getting used to the half-cage, but it’s functionally the same as a rack. (Is it as safe? I doubt it. I felt safer in my cage, but I don’t feel unsafe in the Titan…if that makes any sense.)

Sometimes having the smith machine is a nice change of pace. A rack doesn’t give you that option.


In all honesty the Titan doesnt really offer anything of significance over a traditional power rack and free weight excercises other than a hefty pricetag. Assisted pullups? Better off doing negative pullups on the rack until you can do your own bodyweight. That combined with work on a traditional lat tower is all that is needed.

I had a chance to work out on a Titan for a week at a friends house a few months back. Its a nice machine, but it honestly offered me 0 over a good quality power rack with a good assortment of freeweights. Alot of the excercises on the Titan are pure "fluff".


The Leg Curl, Leg Extension, and T-Bar Row are hardly “pure fluff”. While these are all NON-standard features, you can add them all at a decent cost. ($600 bucks if you directly order from their site, i.e. not using the JSF discount.)

The Leg Curl machine on the Titan is HEALTH-CLUB quality, not “at home” gym quality. I have worked out on a number of the big name manufacturers and none of them compared to the feel of the leg curl on the Titan. (Say what you want about the seated versus prone leg curl, but I prefer to be lying down.)

I was skeptical about the T-Bar Row, but after using it for over 1 month now, I can tell you that it is highly effective. The varying handle positions and full ROM allow me to work my back far beyond my old makeshift T-Bar row from NYBarbells. (It was great, but this is better)



As for the leg press feature. I would prefer doing traditional squats and lunges inside a cage. And to be honest, you can get a superior leg press machine, power rack w/lat attachment, calf machine and few other accesories and still save over $1000 over the price of the Titan.

I have had the pleasure of working on the Lamar equipment and I will say that it is top notch. The padding is gel molded and is the ONLY padding I have seen that comes close to the durability and comfort of the Titan’s pads. The dual guide rod Lat machine is solid, but it wasn’t as fluid as the Titan w/ Linear bearings. (The Lamar racks ARE good, but they are hardly top of the line.)

As I stated, you can perform the squat and lunge using the Titan, but it DOES require some adjustment.

If you purchased individual machines targeted for specific exercises, then they would probably surpass the Titan in terms of effectiveness. However, you would need to find a machine of similar quality; undoubtedly you would discover that all of those toys come at a high cost. The Titan is all about offering gym equipment on a single piece of equipment. It’s a space saver that is built with quality in mind.

Is the Titan perfect? No.
(The cable-cross over doesn’t look all that good to me and therefore I didn’t purchase it.)
Is the Titan for everyone? Certainly not, but it is an amazing piece of equipment.

SatDive 1
Wed, January 3rd, 2007, 09:28 AM
Take a look at the Ultimate Smith II at Dicks Sporting Goods. I bought mine in September and would not trade it for the world. It is low enough to fit in your room. It has Row, Lat pull-down, weighted sit-up and cable crossover capabilities. Mine is in a 10’X12’ room with a treadmill, two litter-boxes and a metal table from Lowe’s that holds my binder and the surround sound and there is plenty of room to work out.

I would have loved to have bought a Titan but could not justify it at this time in my life. The USII mimics many of the exercises that can be done with the Titan. Obviously the Titan can do more, but with a little creativity you can perform 90% of them on the USII.

I bought my system at Dick’s for $799. Weights and a Bench are extra.

Good luck.
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