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Gordo
Wed, November 15th, 2006, 12:37 PM
Just presenting the flip side... so, if fasted works for you, don't read further I guess, and no need to defend your position :)

Now the good stuff:
If you take the time to go through the papers presented in this thread and read the thread itself, there are some very good arguments presented:
http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8477

Alan Aragons take on fasted cardio:
http://www.alanaragon.com/myths-under-the-microscope-part-2-false-hopes-for-fasted-cardio.html

Even T-Nation has unfasted supporters along with the fasted group:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1074246


Another good discussion on cardio, carbs and timing (lots of good stuff in here):
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=4501

Personal Thoughts:
Boring
Doesn't feel like much is getting done
Tend to go hypo on fasted exercise (which is bad bad bad).

I've done both ways and for my body type ecto-meso, I've had as good results doing consistent 20 min fed cardio as opposed to doing fasted 40-45 min cardio.

My biggest weight loss came from fed, 1 hour morning and 1 hour evening walks when I made my biggest change (my diet was pretty spot on, or, at least I thought so LOL ).

Many ways to skin a cat.
My point is, if you don't enjoy fasted morning cardio, don't think all hope is lost if you actually prefer doing something else. Regulating your diet and being consistent in whatever fitness you choose is MORE important than the minor differences achieved in cardio techniques.

If it isn't fun, you'll quit.

cheers,

Gord

phitness
Wed, November 15th, 2006, 12:42 PM
It would've been cooler if you had've named the thread to be similar to the other one. :)

I agree though - both methods work, and have worked for me. In fact I'm currently employing both methods.

- 30 Minutes Fasted AM
- 40-50 Minutes (1-2 Hours After Eating) Fed PM

Good links too! :tucool:

karatetricker
Wed, November 15th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Good post. I believe Layne Norton also has some good articles for non-fasted cardio. I've read tons of articles supporting both sides, and both sides present great arguments. Furthermore, I've seen people get shredded using both methods, so it's not like one isn't working despite its evidence.

Articles aside, this is key (and why I generally don't do low intensity morning cardio):

Many ways to skin a cat.
My point is, if you don't enjoy fasted morning cardio, don't think all hope is lost if you actually prefer doing something else. Regulating your diet and being consistent in whatever fitness you choose is MORE important than the minor differences achieved in cardio techniques.

If it isn't fun, you'll quit.
:tucool:

Hort
Wed, November 15th, 2006, 12:53 PM
I've been chatting with Alan about his thoughts- just FYI- that link is "part two"- It's useful to read ll three parts. :tu:

Gordo
Wed, November 15th, 2006, 12:59 PM
I've been chatting with Alan about his thoughts- just FYI- that link is "part two"- It's useful to read ll three parts. :tu:

Yeah I know, but part II was directly related ;)

It would've been cooler if you had've named the thread to be similar to the other one.

there's a thought. Maybe an admin will peek in a change it to:

Support for unfasted / fed state anytime cardio