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Dmtri Sun, November 12th, 2006, 04:09 PM I noticed that I'm not quite meeting my predetermined protein requirements (at least 90 g per day), through eating the foods that I have been. Eating alone, I come close to only around 50 g, and would like to up that number by adding two scoops of whey protein to my diet at 23 g per scoop, bringing the total to around 96 g.
I was wondering if supplementing dietary protein with whey protein would have any detrimental effects on my fatloss goals.
I also noticed that it says not to use this particular product for weight loss on the front of the tub.
Well, I'm off to eat my chocolate whey and oats :eat:
Cheers!
EDIT: I noticed that I've lost about 10 pounds on the plan I posted below over the course of about 2.5 weeks. Can't seem to target my lower abs though!
betastas Sun, November 12th, 2006, 04:33 PM Increased protein is important for fat loss. It helps prevent lean body mass loss. You are eating too little at 90g as it is, let alone 50g. I would recommend 1g per pound of lean mass.
They say that on the tub so people wont think it's a magic food. Eat it whenever you want.
dluc Sun, November 12th, 2006, 04:42 PM What is your exact meal plan if you don't mind posting? If you're only taking in 50g of protein via whole food, you may want to rework your diet a bit. To answer your question, whey is great source of protein but shouldn't be used to replace whole foods all the time. Whey absorbs very quickly so in some cases it may be pretty useless (for example right before bed). List the rest of your meal plan and maybe we can help you out with increasing your protein intake with and without the help of whey.
Dmtri Sun, November 12th, 2006, 05:03 PM Here is my diet plan on days where I actually have time to cook:
Multi-vitamin
3 eggs: 1 whole, 2 whites
1/2 cup oats
1 serving veggies
16-32 oz. water
1.5 serving of tuna on whole wheat or whole grain bread
1 scoop whey (23 g) on 1/2 cup oats with 3 g. brown sugar
16-32 oz. water
Peanut butter toast on whole wheat/grain bread
(30 min. walk/5 min. jog)
Lean turkey lunch meat on one slice whole wheat/grain bread
1/2 cup walnuts (too high in sat. fat for my tastes)
16-32 oz. water w/ one scoop whey OR shake (whey, skim milk, ice, 1/2 tbsp sugar blended into smoothie)
1 chicken breast, if available (sadly it isnt most times)
1 serving veggies
Pistachios
16-32 oz. water
And this is the maximum amount of food I eat daily. My family loves to eat junk, so they're constantly in the kitchen and I have no time to cook. Aside from this, on school days, I rarely have time to eat in school, and have trouble finding healthy food I can take with me. This is about to get very sad:
On school days:
1 banana, crisp bread, water, multi-vitamin, 1/4 cup walnuts, 1/2 scoop whey
(I barely get this in as I'm rushing out the door)
Peanut butter sandwich on whole-grain or wheat
Pistachios
1/4 cup walnuts
Tuna sandwich on toasted wholegrain bread
1 scoop whey
1 serving veggies
16-32 oz. water
(Chest bodyweight exercises, abs, standing military press, curls, shrugs)
1/2 cup oats with 2 g. brown sugar, 1/2 scoop whey
16-32 oz. water
banana
(25. min walk/5 min. jog)
1 serving tuna eaten out of the bowl.
--2 hours pass--
6 hours sleep.
I'm not eating nearly enough calories on school day due to time restrictions, and the availability of healthy foods. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas for calorie-dense, high-protein, low-fat foods I can take to school with me? I'm trying not to exceed 8 grams of saturated fat daily, as I don't have the equipment to effectively build muscle.
I also take this thermogenic in the mornings in attempt to keep my body temp. up during the day:
http://www.primev.com/pro143423.htm
I'm using this one as it was given to me for free, until I'm able to find a different one.
Sorry for the novel
SwoleCat Sun, November 12th, 2006, 11:22 PM If you are cutting on a reduced calorie diet, your protein needs to be a lot higher. Even maintenance it should be at least many grams as your bodyweight. (If you weigh 200 lbs., 200 grams protein) While cutting w/reduced calories, it's a good idea to go higher. I take in 2 grams of protein per lb. of bodyweight when cutting, as you are in a catabolic state while dieting if you don't take in enough protein and remain in a positive nitrogen balance. You will lose a lot of lean mass (muscle) while dieting if your protein is that low.
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pseudoblock Sun, November 12th, 2006, 11:53 PM I'm not eating nearly enough calories on school day due to time restrictions, and the availability of healthy foods. I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas for calorie-dense, high-protein, low-fat foods I can take to school with me? I'm trying not to exceed 8 grams of saturated fat daily, as I don't have the equipment to effectively build muscle.
1. Protein shakes, seems like what you are leaning towards.
2. Cottage cheese, mix it with whatever you want- fruits, nut butters, whey, tuna/shredded chicken. You'll need a container/spoon, however.
3. Cooked meats... just plain, straight up in a plastic bag. It's a bit strange in my view, but it could be done.
3a You didn't specify carbs, but if you don't mind, you can continue making even more sandwiches or wraps. Just pick a high fiber, low-calorie bread/tortilla if you want to lower the carbs. Combine it with a salsa, and/or homemade refried beans (beans, garlic, olive oil).
3b Pair the meat with a salad, which is pretty much low impact on carbs. Dressing might be tricky since many have an oil-base. Maybe a mustard type sauce.
I'd suggest looking into bulk cooking if you can't cook on schooldays. By setting aside some more time on the weekend, you can prepare everything at once. Chili's are a great example of an easy one-pot dish that utilizes:
Lean meats- beef chuck cuts are very lean and usually the cheapest $$ meats. Chicken, turkey both work as well.
Fibrous carbs- beans, optional/debated, cheap in the bulk dried form. Veggies- if you desire.
Healthy fats- olive oil in varying amounts.
The portability and convenience of a chili is like that of cottage cheese- container + spoon.
1FastGTX Mon, November 13th, 2006, 01:25 AM If you're only takingin 50g of protein via whole food, you may want to rework your diet a bit.
I agree.
Adding protein powder to a food meal is absolutely fine I think. I actually do one can of tuna and one scoop of Nitrean once in a while (not mixed together though, ha). But if you're having trouble hitting a measly 50g with whole food, I think your first order of business is to get the diet straight before jumping onto a supplement website and ordering protein powder.
Boil whole eggs, put them in tupperware. Cook some chicken/steak/turkey at home and put it in tupperware. Etc. Etc. Etc.
guava Mon, November 13th, 2006, 09:53 AM I was wondering if supplementing dietary protein with whey protein would have any detrimental effects on my fatloss goals.
I also noticed that it says not to use this particular product for weight loss on the front of the tub. They say this to be sure you understand that adding protein powder to a diet will not result in weight loss. However, substituting protein powders for high glycemic carbohydrates can sometimes aid in fat loss.
I'm not eating nearly enough calories on school day due to time restrictions, and the availability of healthy foods.
I also take this thermogenic in the mornings in attempt to keep my body temp. up during the day.
I'm not sure how useful thermogenics are when your calories are already on the low side.
I'm trying not to exceed 8 grams of saturated fat daily, as I don't have the equipment to effectively build muscle.
If you are not performing a proper strength training routine, then your protein intake will be just as likely to be stored as fat as your carbohdrate intake or your fat intake. According to the USDA, you can safely eat up to 10% of your maintenance amount of calories from saturated fat (or about 20 grams).
I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas for calorie-dense, high-protein, low-fat foods I can take to school with me?
oatmeal protein pancakes (search this forum)
Hard boiled eggs (throw out the yolk, if you like)
lean meat and vegetable omelettes (wrapped in foil or cold)
cottage cheese
beef jerky or turkey jerky
tuna in a pouch
bean salad
edamame (roasted soy beans)
Almonds are good! (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=20) A study published in the International Journal of Obesity and Related Metabolic Disorders that included 65 overweight and obese adults suggests that an almond-enriched low calorie diet (which is high in monounsaturated fats) can help overweight individuals shed pounds more effectively than a low calorie diet high in complex carbohydrates.
Also, new research shows that consuming a handful of raw walnuts along with meals high in saturated fat appears to limit the ability of the harmful fat to damage arteries. (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/061010022750.htm)
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