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ucfmatt
Thu, November 2nd, 2006, 09:40 PM
Would doing Cardio 2x per day during a cutting phase be worth it?

For example 45 minute fasted LISS in the morning (7:00 am), then again in the evening (5:45 pm)?

I guess what I'm saying is, if I have the motivation and time to do it on my lifting rest days, would it really be that much more beneficial than just doing the one session in the morning?

Is it possible to "overtrain" cardio?

zenpharaohs
Thu, November 2nd, 2006, 09:53 PM
Would doing Cardio 2x per day during a cutting phase be worth it?

For example 45 minute fasted LISS in the morning (7:00 am), then again in the evening (5:45 pm)?

I guess what I'm saying is, if I have the motivation and time to do it on my lifting rest days, would it really be that much more beneficial than just doing the one session in the morning?

Is it possible to "overtrain" cardio?

What is the goal?

Two a days are completely possible. Exactly what benefit you are aiming for makes the difference between how you should do this, and whether you should do this at all.

I would also think that the second session probably shouldn't really be fasted because you should be eating often enough not to be able to have a long fast before that session. So HIIT or cardio lifting would probably be my choice there.

But explain what your goals are and we will be able to figure out whether what you propose makes sense.

bradh
Thu, November 2nd, 2006, 10:25 PM
I would slowly introduce that to prevent burnout.

eg.

If you have 3 cardio days per week:

Week 1 - One cardio day do it twice
Week 2 - Two cardio days do it twice etc

I hope that makes sense i'm getting tried. :)

SwoleCat
Thu, November 2nd, 2006, 10:56 PM
On my non-weight training days I do two 45 minute sessions myself.

One fasted a.m. and the other about 2.5 to 3 hours after a liquid fat/protein offering, having taken an energy stack to induce lipolysis quicker and get as close to mimicking a fasted state as possible.

If your dietary outline supports your fitness goals, you will not "over-do" cardio, no.

~SC~

daDUDE
Thu, November 2nd, 2006, 11:27 PM
On my non-weight training days I do two 45 minute sessions myself.


~SC~

i know ur calorie intake is different than others(mine in particular) but how many calories do u on average burn each session?

SwoleCat
Thu, November 2nd, 2006, 11:31 PM
I actually don't pay attention to what the eliptical says regarding how many calories I burn. I don't believe those to be accurate, and the cardio I do is not about the calories burned, it's about me mobilizing fat stores and using fatty acids (fat broken down) for fuel to reduce bodyfat and elevate the metabolism for hours on end after the cessation of the cardio session(s). The readout usually says 680 to 720 calories burned in 45 mins., but again, I don't use that to guage caloric intake in any way/shape/form, I just see it as nothing more than an LCD readout listing.


~SC~

tedpod
Thu, November 2nd, 2006, 11:33 PM
i wouldnt pay attention to the "calorie counter" on a treadmill or any aperatus for that matter.....keep your heart rate in the right area....do it consistently...the fat will melt off...also dont slack on the nutrition...

but those machines arent exactly telling the truth all the time

SwoleCat
Thu, November 2nd, 2006, 11:36 PM
Exactly!

I used to use a very old school stationary bike that had nothing on it as far as any readouts or electric anything. It was an old fashioned bike with the strap that provided the resistance, no fancy magnets or anything like that. I got ripped to the bone and won 2 bodybuilding shows and never once had a readout on how many calories were burned. That just doesn't matter to me and the way I do things.

~SC~

kecko1
Sat, November 4th, 2006, 02:44 PM
On the other hand, I find that tracking calories burned is a good way to track my intensity--if I did 30 min on the treadmill and burned 400 cals one day, 500 cals on the same machine the next day, then I know I did a better workout the next day, but it's only a relative thing... the numbers don't really matter.
But the others are right, many of these machines 'lie" in order to try to get suckers to use them/buy them... like "ohhh, I like this elliptical trainer, because I can do no work at all and I burn 300 calories".
If you want a more accurate reading, subtract 20 lb from your weight when it asks you what you weigh.

zenpharaohs
Sat, November 4th, 2006, 03:23 PM
I actually don't pay attention to what the eliptical says regarding how many calories I burn.

That would be completely true. Especially in your case. Even if the machine asks your weight and sex, it's not going to account for a single digit body fat percentage, let alone your relatively high weekly cardio volume. The machine is going to lowball you.

zenpharaohs
Sat, November 4th, 2006, 03:25 PM
On the other hand, I find that tracking calories burned is a good way to track my intensity--if I did 30 min on the treadmill and burned 400 cals one day, 500 cals on the same machine the next day, then I know I did a better workout the next day, but it's only a relative thing... the numbers don't really matter.

I track Calories burned pretty closely. Just don't use the numbers on the machines. If you want to get good Calories burned, you want a heart rate monitor that uses a reasonable approximation of your VO2max, and you want to get some exercise data to check that the VO2max is what you think it is. Then you get good Calories burned estimates.