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pedurrod Thu, August 17th, 2006, 01:45 PM I just wanted to let you know something that many of you probably don't know yet. You can improve your vision with eye exercices.
I used to have 3.50 (Right) and 3.75 (Left) myopia. That was about 8 years ago. I found a book called "Improve your vision without glasses". I though "that can't be true", but anyway, I gave it a try. It was relaxation exercices, focusing, eye movements... One day I was doing the focusing exercices and one of the times I was focusing on a poster in my room I could clearly read the huge writting that I usually didn't see without glasses. That made me think it might work after all.
I went to my optometrist and asked them to make new glasses for me, but with 2.50 and 2.50. They all laughed. "May be you will improve you vision that way" I laughed too. "Yes, who knows, maybe I will"
It's not something that happens overnight, but with consistency and determination, it happens. I went back a year later and asked them to check my vision. It was 2,50 and 2.50. They could not believe it. They claimed I was in my fourties and my vision was changing due to age and presbycia was compensation my myopia. I told them that was not possible because I was not in my forties, but in my early thirties.
Well, in any case, I have been keeping the process for some years. It takes time and determination, and when you lower your graduation you don't see very well, but I always do it in the spring, when there is more light and days are longer, and only lower my graduation a little each time so I can still see fairly well, and in a few months I see perfectly again with less graduation.
The thing is I just turned 40 now and I have 1.00 and 1.00 myopia. I hope in a couple of years I won't need glasses anymore. But in any case, I can already go without glasses most of the time.
It would be more simple to have an operation done and 10 minutes later I would have perfect vision, but that's too easy for me, plus I don't like anybody s¿?/!ing with my eyes.
Just wanted to let you know that it's not only your body that you can improve through hard work and determination. You can have perfect vision too. It takes long, depending on how bad your eyes are, mine were pretty bad, but it can be done. Why didn't you know about this yet? Well, just because nobody told you.
There's an interesting link were they explain this much better than me:
http://www.vision-training.com
And there are many books on the matter that you can find on the internet if you are interested.
Best regards,
Pedro.
vesuvio Sat, August 19th, 2006, 02:10 AM thats pure craziness. i am intrigued, however..
pedurrod Sat, August 19th, 2006, 07:02 PM Crazy?
Who is more crazy? Someone who does exercices to improve her / his vision, or someone who gets his eyes f?c*&d up for the rest of his life?
Have you seen this sites?
www.lasikdisaster.com
www.lasikflap.com
There are more. Somethink adds don't tell you about.
I've been wearing glasses since I was 12. Now I can go without them most of the time.
There are many sites where you can find information. Just search for vision visual eye training exercice...
Take care,
Pedro.
PAF Sat, August 19th, 2006, 10:03 PM Funky. That's great that you've managed to improve your eyesight by so much.
Can you give a few exercise examples? What did you actually go?
Gila Monster Sun, August 20th, 2006, 01:47 AM Thank you for the info - I've been interested in that quite a lot!
pedurrod Mon, August 21st, 2006, 05:33 AM I hope this can help you. The exercices I did were basically:
Put the palm of your hands on your eyes, without pressure, and give a massage to relax them, for a few minutes.
Roll your eyes in circles, as wide as possible, like 10 times clockwise, relax, then 10 times counterclockwise. Do a few sets: 3, 4, 5 sets is enough.
Move eyes up and down, same as above, rest, repeat.
Move eyes left to right, as before, rest, repeat.
Focus exercice: Take a pencil, or you can use your finger. Hold it about six inches from your eyes. Focus your sight on the pencil/finger, then focus on an object that is a few feet away (4/5 feet is enough), You can do this exercise outside, or looking through a window and focus on a distant object. Give your eyes time to focus so that your eye muscles can work all the way and learn to improve their performance.
Repeat 10 times, relax, do a few sets.
This is not like a cardio workout, but more like yoga. The thing is your eye muscles must learn to relax and get stronger to allow your eyes to work like they should.
What also helps a lot is to take your glasses off when there is a sunny day and take a walk outside. Let your eyes focus on things. You will realise their not as week as you thought.
Whenever possible, don't use your glasses (that excludes driving and any other potentially dangerous activity) and get new glasses with lower graduation. You will still see fairly well (not 20/20 of course) and your eyes will work more.
Your eyes will be tired, possibly hurt... that's normal. It's like doing weights. The less trained your are the harder it will be.
The good thing about this is it makes your eyes be healthier and stronger. You won't get a 20/20 vision overnight, but it will surely improve, and with consistency you can get a huge improvement.
When you have a lasik operation your eyes don't improve, it's like having permanent correction, but your eyes are just as week, nothing has improved.
The most positive side of this is that, when these exercises (or similar ones) are performed by children with vision problems, they may never have to wear glasses.
If I can think of something else, I'll let you know.
But anyway, I would do a search on the net because there are doctors who have written books on the matter and can give you a more detailed aproach and probably better exercices. I'm not a doctor, so I cannot tell you what to do, only let you know what I did and worked for me.
Best regards,
Pedro.
widthofacircle Mon, August 21st, 2006, 08:26 AM Im glad you are happy. BUT... (http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/eyequack.html)
**shrug** And dont trust anyone who wont submit to peer review. Especially ones that have 'Institutes' that were set up in the 70's to produce peer-reviewed research, and are silent.
pedurrod Mon, August 21st, 2006, 12:52 PM Then if these doctors say so I guess I must get rid of my -1.00/-1.00 glasses with which I can read a sign 500 yards away now, and go back to my old -3.75/-3.50 and get used to them, so that when I take them off I can barely see the palm of my hand.
Companies that manufacture glasses have their own lobbies, like everybody else. Don't believe everything you read.
There are charlatans who sell ab equipment that will get you in perfect body shape in just 5 minutes a day. No diet, No sweat. Just pay 59.99 and you'll be like Brad Pitt in a few days.
Should I then think everyone who sells exercise equipment is the same?
How about lasik surgeons? They permanently disfigure the cornea of millions of people who will always have vision problems afterwards (double vision, etc...) many of whom cannot drive at night, who cannot work any longer (think of an architecht with double vision). Many of these people are happy with the results and accept the side effects. I wouldn't have my eyes fixed that way.
Nobody becomes a world class bodybuilder overnight. Same with vision. Have you ever seen a Shepperd wearing glasses?
If I only had trouble reading the small writting on the blackboard when I was 12, why did the optometrist tell my parents I had to wear them all the time, and that includes when I was reading a book? And why did I have to go every year and get new expensive glasses and stronger correction? Get the hint? Nowadays I know of optometrists who do the opposite and even put varifocals on children so that they won't force their eyes with strong prescription on the books but only whey they look far away.
I have no finantial interest in this. I only recommend that you do your research on the net or library. Also I'm telling you it's a long road. Perhaps that is why it does not work for many people. Today we want everything and we want it now. It doesn't work that way.
Eye exercise may never get you a 20/20 vision, but if you know what it is to put your glasses on before you get out of bed, because you cannot see anything without them, you will understand the difference with not having to wear them unless you are going to drive, and the difference of decreasing graduation instead of increasing graduation and eye tension and all the problems it carries.
I get your point though. But doing this will cost you nothing and can help you improve your vision.
pedurrod Tue, August 22nd, 2006, 08:41 AM From Lasikdisaster.com
Subject: Halloween Study by Bullhorn, Munchie, et al
During the evening of Halloween, there were many cars which traveled through the observed neighborhood. While many cars observed the 25 MPH speed limits and many were observed traveling under the posted speed limit, several cars were speeding down this residential neighborhood's poorly lit streets, with one traveling at 50 MPH.
Trick-or-treating children were observed in facial masks which many times appeared to obstruct their vision and they were many times seen not paying attention to their surroundings. In spite of this, no one was killed or injured by a motor vehicle during our study. Since one motorist first received his driver's license in 1953, he is considered an expert at driving in dark residential neighborhoods. Despite the fact that along with him, we observed speeds which varied from well under the posted speed limit, up to 25 MPH over the speed limit at night with kids trick-or-treating, and the fact that no one was injured or killed, we can only conclude that there can be no known contraindication to speeding at night in residential neighborhoods even while kids are out trick-or-treating, because we have observed several speeding cars under these conditions, with no adverse effects noted in any case at all.
Conclusion: While the sample size was limited, statistical analysis revealed no correlation between speed and night driving, even in the presence of small children. Laws to reduce speed in residential neighborhood were originally based on anecdotal reports that there may be a danger to children. Our study shows the contrary. We believe that is time for governments to re-think laws that limit motorists to present residential speed limits, even at night with children present. In spite of previous anecdotal reports, this study concludes that there is no correlation between speed and night driving, even in the presence of small children who are visually impaired by wearing facial masks and not paying attention.
Editor's comments: I am going to publish this and put myself out there as an expert witness. Something horrible could happen to any motorist who has passed the state licensing examination, and is found by the state licensing authorities to be qualified, who drives 50 MPH at night through a residential neighborhood on Halloween and kills or maims a child. I think there might be a chance of a lawsuit or even court trial. This, of course, would be a travesty of justice that an innocent motorist, whom the state has certified and licensed to practice driving, would be charged or sued for this bad Halloween outcome. I hope that this study could, in some way, prevent successful lawsuits from parents who fully understood the dangers present when they allowed their children to walk the streets at night in facial masks that visually impaired them, and failed to exercise full alertness to their surroundings to be sure not to obstruct the path of a motor vehicle.
If something is not done to prevent this growing trend of parents suing for their childrens' bad trick-or-treat experience, automobile rates will eventually force insurers out of the auto insurance market. We will all suffer, as drivers cut back on the number of trips they make, children will not get to school, and the elderly will be denied rides to doctor visits. I urge all of you to work for liability reform to limit the awards given to these parents by our runaway legal system.
In the meantime, I believe this study can help reverse this injustice to our fellow motorists, who like to speed through dark streets in their Porsches at 50 MPH on Halloween. Our biggest problem is parents who are unwilling to assume responsibility for the risks they and their children took, just because they did not get the Halloween miracle they were looking for. The anecdotal incidence of childrens' death due to automobiles on Halloween was previously believed to be very low. This study found it to be non-existent.
I congratulate the authors of this study for their continued efforts to subvert Halloween lawsuits.
Naturegirl Tue, August 22nd, 2006, 10:12 PM Thanks for posting :)
My eyes went from a perfect 20/20 (actually 15/20) to about 40/80 over the last year and a half; They were -.50 in my left and -1.50 in my right the last time I went to the eye doctor which was several months ago. I noticed my eyes went straight downhill after taking a full time job in an office. I was probably spending 14+ hours a day doing nearwork, so it was no wonder my eyes got screwed up.
Unfortunately after doing a good amount of research, I wasnt satisfied by the information I saw, to invest the time in any self-help protocol that involved exercises. I did try wearing reading glasses while doing nearwork, which did improve my vision by about 85%, but wearing them all day was giving me headaches and eye strain amongst other side effects. I remember, after wearing them for only one day, I went outside and looked all around at signs and people and the mountains, everything was crystal clear, just like my vision used to be. I actually cried I was so amazed and happy to have my old eyes back :o :D
I still will only wear my prescribed minus lenses rarely, as I believe they will only make my eyesight worse. And I hate that bullshit doctors tell you when you ask them why everything looks worse after you take your prescribed glasses off, and they go "Oh that's just because you are seeing clearly throuh your glasses, and then when you take them off your real vision looks worse than before by comparison." Well that's crap because I've tested this with snellen cards myself.
Anyway, I'm glad you posted because I really should start wearing my reading glasses at home at the very least while I'm on the net and reading. And also look into other forms of eye exercises.
pedurrod Wed, August 23rd, 2006, 07:37 AM Hi Nature Girl,
Thanks for the information. I'm really glad you got your perfect vision back. And also glad you figured out a way to do it.
I'll give it a try. Of course the best thing is not to wear any correction, but then also the best thing is not to work 14 hours in front of a computer, etc...
Other exercices I did and didn't remember are the following: (I found the website of an oftalmologist who describes these exercices and recommends them for improving vision. But it's only in Spanish: http://www.masgrau.net/?q=es/node/49 )
Of course prevention is the main thing. Before you start exercising you should get rid of the bad habits that hurt your vision.
Besides the active exercices there are other things that you can do:
Go outside. In your case, look at those mountains as much as you can. Take small breaks to do that and relax your eyes.
Wash your eyes with cold water. That will activate the blood circulation in your eye muscles. I would do it when taking each break too.
I know what you're thinking, but people used to take breaks for smoking. Why not take them to keep your eyes from deteriorating?
Working out and eating clean are very important too. But you already do that.
Breathing is important too. Breathing deeply at slow rithm will help your blood be better oxigened and your eye muscles will also benefit.
He also explains how you must be aware of the things that affect your vision and that you must pursue the equilibrium in your vision. I don't know how to explain this. I guess it's like "Doctor, it hurts when I do this - Well, then don't do it"
In the active exercices he describes also the eye movements I mentioned in another message, and also blinking. When we are forcing our eyes for a long time we don't blink enough. Blinking gets the eye moistured.
Blinking at higher speed will help you moisture your eyes when they're dry.
Another technique used by combat pilots is to blink closing your eyes with pressure, for a few seconds and then open your eyes. You will see better for a couple of seconds. They do this because their cockpits are not pressurized and low pressure makes them see with a little myopia although they have perfect vision at normal pressure. With this technique they can avoid that effect for a moment and see better. It's also a good exercise for your eye muscles.
But I think what will help you the most is the accomodation exercice, where you focus on a close object and then on a far object. This doctor also describes an exercise where you do this but with a dark and a clear area. I've never done that.
Another thing he describes is doing the exercices with one eye at a time, covering the other eye, so that both eyes get to work the same.
The most important thing is that now you know why your vision got worse and what you can do to keep it from getting worse or even getting your perfect vision back.
Thanks again for your information.
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