Does anyone know of somewhere online where I could acquire the measurements (arms, thighs, chest, shoulder girth etc) of the Mr. Olympia contestants? Even just the top 10 would be fine.

The reason I ask is that I was having a discussion about proportions with a guy at work this morning. I started thinking about what are "ideal" proportions, and although this is very subjective, I thought the boys in the Mr. O might be a good start since they are apparently the best in the world! I want to write a little script or something where one could input their arm measurements for example and get the "ideal" proportions for the rest of their body parts based on the average of the top 10 contestants.

The logic may be somewhat flawed I suppose, but remember we're talking proportions, not raw size here :). Also, I want to ignore height/weight as well. I thought the results might be interesting to others as well. For all I know, this idea might already exist somewhere.

Cheers,
Heavy

I started thinking about what are "ideal" proportions, and although this is very subjective, I thought the boys in the Mr. O might be a good start since they are apparently the best in the world!They might be the best at what they do but you'd find a lot of people who'd dispute that they have the best bodily proportions.

Also, I want to ignore height/weight as well.I think that would be a mistake, as 2 guys with the same size (insert body part name here) would obviously have different proportions if their heights are several inches apart.

Most of the IFBB guys have no balanced proportion, many are "oiled" to the gills (distorting their true measurements), and ALL are juiced to the gills.

Poor representatives of what true symmetry, flowing lines, and a healthy physique and lifestyle should reflect.

Although, to be fair, the IFBB (and the NPC) is not about health and/or longevity.

They might be the best at what they do but you'd find a lot of people who'd dispute that they have the best bodily proportions.

I think that would be a mistake, as 2 guys with the same size (insert body part name here) would obviously have different proportions if their heeights are several inches apart.

Yes. It's definately subjective. As for the height thing, I'm not following you. That's not to say you are incorrect, but more that I just don't follow. My intent is to write the script so that it will calculate relations (simple percentages probably) between, for example, arm size and thigh size. Now when I input my arm size, it will tell me according to the average size relationship between the arm size and thigh size of the chosen subjects (Mr. O top 10 in this case) what size my thighs should be to obtain the "ideal" proportions. Using similar relationships for other body parts, those sizes could be calculated too.

As far as who the chosen subjects should be, it doesn't really matter. As long as they are somewhat aesthetically pleasing it could be any group of people. They could be cyclists too if you would rather. I was just thinking Mr. O because I assumed thier measurements must be published somewhere. I don't mind keeping the data separate either so that any group of people (or single person for that matter) could be used.

Remember this is just for interest's sake. I wouldn't suggest people use it to determine what they should strive for realistically. For some, these proportions (from Mr. O) may simply be unachievable due to genetics for all I know.

Cheers,
Heavy

Most of the IFBB guys have no balanced proportion, many are "oiled" to the gills (distorting their true measurements), and ALL are juiced to the gills.

Poor representatives of what true symmetry, flowing lines, and a healthy physique and lifestyle should reflect.

Although, to be fair, the IFBB (and the NPC) is not about health and/or longevity.

I'd actually like to hand pick a group of people like Frank Zane, Bob Paris, Lee Labrada, etc etc. That would be even more subjective than the IFBB top 10 though :). I just thought it would be simple to get their stats and it would be at least some data to use. Maybe their stats aren't as readily available as I thought :(

Cheers,
Heavy

Here's an earlier thread (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=27282) that discussed idea proportions.

Here's an earlier thread (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=27282) that discussed idea proportions.

Yeah I remember that one. Thanks for the link. I was thinking more along the lines of being able to choose the subjects with the proportions you are interested in. Anyways, this link is neat too.

I'm suprised at the lack of this data available out there. I would have thought it would be more plentiful. Google doesn't turn up much more than speculation. The only measurements I've found is Arnolds (suprise). On a postitive note though, I would look a lot more like Arnold proportionately if I can just get my waist down to ~23". :lol: That's according to my current arm size :).

Cheers,
Heavy

THE "GRECIAN IDEAL" CALCULATOR (http://www.sandowmuseum.com/ideal.html)

"My ideal is not the man with the huge, abnormal muscles of a Hercules; nor is it the lithe, slender form of an Apollo; nor the somewhat better-muscled Mercury. I like to see big, firm muscles combined with speed and flexibility. The question goes deeper than this. When holding up an ideal for scores of thousands to copy after, we set the following requisites...
A man should look good from every angle. He should have curves, rather than great, disfiguring ridges of muscle. He should have a development which is possible for attainment by almost any average boy or young man, who will apply himself to development and cultivate strength, speed and perfect health...

Even though the student should not obtain these relative proportions, still there is no reason why he cannot possess a beautiful physique by approaching the following: which is my idea of how a man should be proportionately built:
Average height: 5 feet 8 inches to 5 feet 9 inches - neck 17" - biceps 16" - calf 15" - chest (normal) 44" - waist 32" - thigh 23.5"

Enter your wrist size, and it will tell you the optimal chest, waist, hip, bicep, forearm, thigh, calf, and neck size.

Mr. Olympia is a little different from a Greek God, however....

bodybuilding.com uses the same script (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/calbs.htm)

Average height: 5 feet 8 inches to 5 feet 9 inches - neck 17" - biceps 16" - calf 15" - chest (normal) 44" - waist 32" - thigh 23.5"[/I]

For my wrist (6.75) it comes up with:

Chest: ideal 43.875, actual 44
Waist: ideal 30.713, actual 41
Hips: ideal 37.3, actual 44
Biceps: ideal 15.795, actual 14.75
Forearm: ideal 12.73, actual 13
Thigh: ideal 23.25, actual 25.75
Calf: ideal 14.9, actual 16.5
Neck: ideal 16.23, actual 16

Sorry lady, I'm using the extra hip, calf and thigh inches. I wouldn't mind dropping some from the waist though.

THE "GRECIAN IDEAL" CALCULATOR (http://www.sandowmuseum.com/ideal.html)....
Average height: 5 feet 8 inches to 5 feet 9 inches - neck 17" - biceps 16" - calf 15" - chest (normal) 44" - waist 32" - thigh 23.5"...

Bet that guy'd have a hard time buying clothes.

For my wrist (7.00) it comes up with:

Chest: ideal 45.5, actual 47
Waist: ideal 31.85, actual 35.8
Hips: ideal 38.7, actual 37.8
Biceps: ideal 16.38, actual 16.75
Forearm: ideal 13.2, actual 13
Thigh: ideal 24.11, actual 25.2
Calf: ideal 15.5, actual 17
Neck: ideal 16.8, actual 16.75

Crap. I'm almost there... Dang waist measurement. :mad: :lol:

I am so far from anyone's ideal (least of all my own) that it isn't funny.

But on topic of this thread I have tried establishing what I find an aesthetic optimum ratio of upper arm depth to humeral length. Still trying...

Why not just ask Mastover for his measurements?

Why not just ask Mastover for his measurements?

Ha, I don't even know what they are. I don't even know what I can bench.

All I know is that I am 5'9" tall and my waist is 28" when in contest shape.

:confused:

Bet that guy'd have a hard time buying clothes.
Moot point.

Some of these guys (http://www.strengthnet.com/models.php) have some of their measurements posted. Based on what they're wearing, it appears they can't find any clothes either. But I'm not complaining. :neener:
http://www.strengthnet.com/media/portfolio/thumbnails/_12-13-34.jpg
Bryant P.
Age: 35
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 225
Chest: 52
Biceps: 20
Quads: 29
Inseam: 32
Calves: 18
Waist: 32
Neck: 19
Suit: 52
Sleeve: 34
Collar: 19
Shoe: 11

Moot point.



Not moot, but a problem I wouldn't mind having to deal with. That guy with a 52 inch chest and a 32 inch waist definitely can't buy suits off the rack!

I have enough trouble with my 42/32 drop. Geez. 20 inches?

Not moot, but a problem I wouldn't mind having to deal with. That guy with a 52 inch chest and a 32 inch waist definitely can't buy suits off the rack!
The Grecians didn't have to worry about the clothing not fitting.

I like to imagine that Bryant makes enough money in his lucrative modelling contracts that he has a personal seamstress whom he pays handsomely to tailor all of his clothing.

I would look at the past Mr America measurements (http://www.musclememory.com/articles/MrAsizes.html)when they actually got honest ones.

Jules Bacon was a small guy, my type of frame/build :tucool:

I would look at the past Mr America measurements (http://www.musclememory.com/articles/MrAsizes.html)when they actually got honest ones.

1959's winner: Harry Johnson :lol: :lol: