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njdanny13
Tue, June 20th, 2006, 09:33 PM
hi guyssss

i need to cut some fat which is what i have been doing. i want to get my abs showing dont need a six pack right away but just being visible is fine.. i have a picture but its not that good so idk if you will really be able to give me advice.. but im 5' 1 and a half.. 100 pounds i do a full body twice a week and try to stay around 1800 calories.. i also do HIIT 3 times a week and im active when it comes to sports and stuff like that . my question is.. how long do you think it will take if i stick to my diet and routine to get abs showing? im dedicated and i am willing to be patient for results lol any replies are helpful thanks for your time :tucool:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c332/njdan13/Dan001.jpg

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bradh
Tue, June 20th, 2006, 10:10 PM
You need mass dude. I would reduce the HIIT to a few medium intensity sessions a week and bump your workouts up to 3x per week.

How do you train? Do you continue to add weight to your lifts?

guava
Tue, June 20th, 2006, 10:51 PM
If you are 5' 1 1/2" and 100 pounds, cutting fat will not help you show your abs.

Are you 13 years old? Cutting your calories at this crucial growth stage could be very harmful to your health. As long as you are eating good clean foods (lots of lean protein, vegetables, whole grains, fruits, dairy products) you don't need to count your calories. I'd like to see you eating more than you are right now.:) For teenagers, dieticians recommend more than 2000 calories for proper growth.

If you are active in sports, you don't need to do the HIIT. Focus your efforts on some good body weight exercises like pushups, pull-ups, and crunches. Be patient, and you will grow, and see your abs.

njdanny13
Tue, June 20th, 2006, 11:05 PM
alright guys thanks lol

phitness
Wed, June 21st, 2006, 12:13 AM
I'm going to guess you're pretty young as well. If this is the case, and you are around 13 years old, my advice would be to do simple exercises and workouts right now and feed your body - eat.

When you are 14-15, continue good eating (don't count calories, just make good food choices) and start to lift weights - make sure you have someone with experience to ensure you have proper form and walk you through to begin.

I'm not a fan of you lifting weights quite yet, so I'd agree with guava and say do basic bodyweight stuff (pushups, chinups, dips, crunches, and maybe some bicep curls with dumbbells) then get into the formal weight training in a year or two.

However, since you do currently workout - I'd say do your full body workout 2 times a week and do LISS (slowwwwww) cardio 2-3 times a week. EAT

bradh
Wed, June 21st, 2006, 12:55 AM
This anti-weight training for young folks drives me nuts!

If you want to train, TRAIN. Weight training doesn't close growth plates.

Rant over. :D

zenpharaohs
Wed, June 21st, 2006, 01:43 AM
This anti-weight training for young folks drives me nuts!

Get used to it. There are a lot of ways a kid can hurt himself by trying to lift heavy before he knows how to lift safely.

I'm not bothered about growth plates either. But consider this.

Before puberty, how much muscle is the kid going to add? How much benefit is there to lifting heavy? And how much risk?

Once the growth spurt starts, he's going to add muscle about as fast as he can eat without necessarily doing any particularly serious training. When he gets through a year or two of the growth spurt, then things will be different. But that could be two years from now, or five years from now.

On the other hand, there is evidence that early adolescent kids are more susceptible to injuries from repetitive motions. They actually had to do the Tommy John surgery on a nine year old baseball player, and it's not uncommon to have to do it on early teens. So it's not just weight lifting, it's any particularly repetitive motion that has stress on the joints.

You know that the muscle will grow faster than the other soft tissues - so the risk of tendon, ligament, and cartilage damage can be big for a kid who puts muscle on before the rest of the connective tissue shows up for work.

Finally, the kid is set up with a VO2max that would make Lance Armstrong fade. The one thing teenagers have that even twenty year olds don't have is they can burn calories like nobody's business. To take advantage of this, building endurance can make more sense.

The idea thing for an adolescent appears to be non-repetitive endurance activity with some strength aspect. Like a lot of sports. Given the low body weight, running and jumping are not as nasty for the adolescent as they will be when he's got some more mass later in life, so impact is not as big an issue.

So a kid who wants to lift should take the time to learn a lot about lifting safely. Even fast progress takes many months. And when the growth spurt hits, he will make progress faster than any program would pretend to offer adults. So there is time for him to catch up. As long as it isn't time spent rehabbing a wrecked joint.

bradh
Wed, June 21st, 2006, 07:17 AM
Good point Zen, i don't think training for appearance is a great idea for pre-teens but if they enjoy training i see no problem with it. I started training with my powerlifting uncle when i was 12, eventhou i never stayed consistent or got very serious.


You know that the muscle will grow faster than the other soft tissues - so the risk of tendon, ligament, and cartilage damage can be big for a kid who puts muscle on before the rest of the connective tissue shows up for work.

That's something a younger person should be award of and/or be under the supervision of a coach that does.

I still think our culture today are too freaky wussy and our kids are becoming just that. They are the most overweight and under active in probably the whole history of mankind.

If you want to train because you LIKE it, do it.

zenpharaohs
Wed, June 21st, 2006, 11:56 AM
I still think our culture today are too freaky wussy and our kids are becoming just that.

You have to lift weights not to be a wussy? Drop and give me twenty planche pushups for that... Almost everyone is suggesting stuff like wrestling, soccer, football, and lacrosse instead of lifting. Frankly, the activity itself is not so important as much as the level at which the kid applies himself. Tap dance lessons would be just fine as long as the kid is working on a five tap wing. And of course, there is a single leg version of this exercise:

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=77200

There's a lot of things I'd like to change about our culture, but "everybody lift weights" is pretty far down the list compared to things like "everybody think for themselves instead of being controlled by advertising". A sheep with fabulous muscles, is still a sheep.

bradh
Wed, June 21st, 2006, 01:23 PM
You have to lift weights not to be a wussy? Drop and give me twenty planche pushups for that... Almost everyone is suggesting stuff like wrestling, soccer, football, and lacrosse instead of lifting. Frankly, the activity itself is not so important as much as the level at which the kid applies himself. Tap dance lessons would be just fine as long as the kid is working on a five tap wing. And of course, there is a single leg version of this exercise:

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=77200

There's a lot of things I'd like to change about our culture, but "everybody lift weights" is pretty far down the list compared to things like "everybody think for themselves instead of being controlled by advertising". A sheep with fabulous muscles, is still a sheep.

Misunderstanding dude . :)

Anyhow, i wasn't really refering to weight training specifically.

Just deleted most of my post almost forgot no politics. :spank:

njdanny13
Wed, June 21st, 2006, 02:21 PM
im only cutting for like 2 months and im not dead serious about it.. i eat good stuff and not a lot and i work out.. after the 2 months im gonna stop cutting and put muscle on.. i lifted on and off for like a year now but never seriously and im having a little under 2000 calories a day.. im not anorexic lol, i just wanna look good for the summer i know im not fat and i dont have a lot of muscle but ive got some under my fat

njdanny13
Wed, June 21st, 2006, 02:28 PM
and by the way my lifts have been going up and i think im gaining muscle.. actually i know i am i can see it and im lookin a little more toned and feel better then i usually do.. im still 100 pounds so im not losing muscle :)