Got a question here....be interested to know womans thoughts on this.

I often like to admire the female form... ;) - if I see a beautiful woman who looks nice, and I want to look - then I'll look at her and 'admire her beauty'. I dont think I'm a pervert .... I wouldnt just stare at boobs/ass or whatever - it'd be more a fleeting glance.

So what exactly would you consider a perve?

If you saw someone (i.e. myself, 21 yr old...am told I am good looking) -- looking at you and checking out your body, at what point would you think pervert? Would you ever 'not mind' and take it as a compliment?

love to hear what woman think.......lol


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Andrew

If you saw someone (i.e. myself, 21 yr old...am told I am good looking) -- looking at you and checking out your body, at what point would you think pervert? Would you ever 'not mind' and take it as a compliment?

If a good looking guy my age (I'm 21) were checking me out, I'd probably take it as a compliment. I don't get much attention from the male population, partly because I am extremely shy and find it very hard to initiate or even respond to flirting. So I think I wouldn't mind if a guy indicated that he finds my body attractive.

That said, if he were leering at my butt or my chest (not that I have much of a chest to leer at) and being obnoxious about it, I'd consider him an ass :p.

It all depends.

J_W, I private msged you .. have a look when u can.

am looking for replies from women of all ages btw - not only around my age ...any age.

I am not perverted...You're just unimaginmative.

If a good looking guy my age (I'm 21) were checking me out, I'd probably take it as a compliment. I don't get much attention from the male population, partly because I am extremely shy and find it very hard to initiate or even respond to flirting. So I think I wouldn't mind if a guy indicated that he finds my body attractive.

That said, if he were leering at my butt or my chest (not that I have much of a chest to leer at) and being obnoxious about it, I'd consider him an ass :p.

It all depends.


this is pretty much how I feel... if your sitting there staring at one or two body parts for an extended period of time you're just... creepy... but if you just stop, look, appreciate and move on... then it's definitely a compliment :tu: and if you're cute, I'll probably be checking you out too... but I keep to my own rules and move on.. although I don't think guys would find it creepy... but who know :p

I think you're off-base in thinking that there's a fundamental difference in perception between the sexes. There isn't. The scenario you're pointing out has as much to do with the observer as the person being observed. Case in point:

She's checking you out. (http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~binhle/WEBSITE%20STUFF/Old%20School%20Pics/hot%20girl.jpg)

She's checking you out. (http://badgas.co.uk/moments/moment_018.jpg)

You've got about as much chance of figuring out what some random person you're looking at is thinking as you do of being invited into a menage-a-trois with Angelina Jolie and Jessica Alba in the back of a limo outside your local Taco Bell. Even then, knowing isn't going to be anywhere near as important as doing.

Start considering the possiblity that you're good looking. Stare at who you want to stare at. If they ignore you or seem offended, leave them alone. If they smile or blush or give you any positive signals, go talk to them. Get rid of your shyness and get into your confidence.

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If a good looking guy my age (I'm 21) were checking me out, I'd probably take it as a compliment.

What if it is not a good-looking guy? I asked my girlfriend this once, and the answer I got was kinda weird.

If the guy is good looking, then it = a compliment.

If the guy is not good looking, then it = creepy.

So, the same behavior is interpreted different ways depending on what the guy looks like. I thought that was a little strange, but that is human nature I guess.

Ya know, I just look when I'm attracted. I don't look too long, and I don't make a fool of myself. I'm not 100% clandestine, but I'm not 100% obvious either. Isn't that just how things are? I mean if you're giving a Beavis+Butthead style porno-laugh and staring at her juggs, you're a perve...if you're just tryin' to "admire the female form" as you claim, relax! You may not be Rico Suave but you're not going to be brought up on charges either.

Let's admit it, all real men have a little perv in them or else they should probably be classified gay. Isn't it just the way nature made us; to be attracted to the opposite sex, especially if she appears to be a good breeder/child bearer? Now if she is dressed provacative, you are probably gonna move from just a look to a stare :eek:

Let's admit it, all real men have a little perv in them or else they should probably be classified gay.

Would it really be gay? Or more likely asexual. I think gay people can be pervs, too!

I would say when it's not socially appropriate or acceptable.

There's a ton of people out there who are interested in "alternate" sex.
Any Google search will show you that. And a lot of these people strive to make there "preferences" mainstream through interviews, documentaries and annual get-togethers.

Hell, there's even weekly serials on T.V. about them.

Members of the porn industry are now referred to as
sex-trade workers. I suppose they'll certify for a union soon.

Internet sex is the biggest moneymaker on the internet.

So we know there's a boatload of folks out there with more than a passing interest in things anatomical.

What about Hugh Hefner? Where does he fit in to the overall scheme?

Some women will bandy about the "perv" remark to gain control of an ambiguous uncertain situation if they perceive it as a threat.

In a way it's a male "ego" buster. A lot of a person's self esteem is composed of their acceptance of the sexual nature and dynamics thereof in relation to themselves.
To gain power, if you can "bust" that you've won half the battle.

There are of course actual "pervs'. Society has rules, laws and limits on what it will allow.

But the average woman wants to be looked at. And the average guy wants to look.

Just don't put her "on the spot".

Ask yourself this:- Would you like to be regarded for who you are or would you like to be seen as a piece of meat?

Ask yourself this:- Would you like to be regarded for who you are or would you like to be seen as a piece of meat?
:whistle: :D

There’s is a female tri athlete at my local gym that thinks badly of me.
Apparently complementing a woman about her great back muscles is perverted. I think she was upset that I noticed her lats before her behind.

I think thats its based on a simple question. Would i go out with the person making the complement ?
No chance = Perv
Possibly / Yes = Complement

Wilders

There’s is a female tri athlete at my local gym that thinks badly of me.
Apparently complementing a woman about her great back muscles is perverted. I think she was upset that I noticed her lats before her behind.

I think thats its based on a simple question. Would i go out with the person making the complement ?
No chance = Perv
Possibly / Yes = Complement

Wilders

hate to say it, but i agree it will be the case for most.

But the average woman wants to be looked at. And the average guy wants to look.

Just don't put her "on the spot".

Ask yourself this:- Would you like to be regarded for who you are or would you like to be seen as a piece of meat?
Funny, I was going to reply the same way the other day, then decided instead to leave no comment.

It wouldn't mind being admired, but I don't like being objectified. If a person smiles and makes eye contact with me, I likely wouldn't see it as creepy (even if that person wasn't "good looking"), but if I were to catch someone stealing furtive glances or looking at select body parts, it would annoy me.

So I was thinking of starting a thread that asked the women here... if they knew when they were being checked out even if they weren't looking at the person. I think a lot of women would say yes.

I like it... (yeah, even I still get checked out at the gym at my age... but it tends to be older guys 37 +) even if I would not find the guy attractive.... I would feel creeped out if I saw him staring at me. That is, he's staring when i am not looking but if I turn around and catch his glance, if he doesn't flit his eyes away (like he doesn't want me to know he was looking at) then that's creepy... Because if he flits his eyes away.. he knows it is inappropriate to stare.. so he looks as long as I don't see but when I look he casts his glance away. Indicates: appreciation but not wanting to be inapporpriate... which shows a fundamental respect for me as a person.

But if the guy is looking at me and I turn and catch his glance and he continues to stare at me... not in a communicating way but in just staring at my bod... like he's fantasizing or something... then he's communicating that he finds it irrelevant whether it is inapparopraite..he's going to do just what he wants... total disregard of me or my feelings... that's a perv...

To me a perv is someone who doesn't give a sh*t about my feelings or who I am, he just wants his own satisfaction and he's functioning to achieve it regardless of how it might make me feel.

So to me, at least, it doesn't make a difference whether I find the guy attractive..if he glances away so I don't 'notice" he's lookin at me... it's a compliment... if he doesn't he's a perv...


But I think, when I was younger.. like in my early 20s or late teens... if guys over 35 were checking me out.. that creeped me a little (but it also gave me a stupid sense of power..:p ) And guys under 37 never check me out now... so I have no idea what the creep factor would be in that. :lol:

Girls and women around me seem to be annoyed by the following types:

- Staring guy in fitness center who keeps staring like he's going to split their skull in half with an axe
- Staring young university teacher who walks by and gazes from top to bottom and back, keeping his stare focussed until his neck doesn't allow turning any further
- Complete stranger who compliments on body parts
- Concierge who tells ethnic girls he really likes ethnic girls and the way their bodies look :nono:
- People who touch them in places they're not allowed to (duh)

As a guy, I actually like it when girls are staring or complimenting me.
There was this pretty girl in university who I knew liked me. I had bought a pair of new jeans, and as we were walking along, she told me my behind looked great in it. She then grabbed it and squeezed, and told me: and muscular too! :o

I know her, if anyone would have tried to pulled that off with her, she'd probably break his hand. In fact, we were strolling through town once with another female friend, and a bunch of guys were walking behind us. They were audible commenting on their legs and behinds, for a few minutes. I noticed my friends were annoyed, so I turned around and told the guys: look, I KNOW my upper body is less developed than my legs and ass, but could you please say something about my back so I don't get insecure?!
You should've seen the look on his face. :eek: He stuttered: 'but, but... :lol: ' The butt-squeezing girl told him to buzz off so explicitly, I actually told her that was uncalled for.

My girlfriend was slapped on her behind by a guy we hung out with, and she was PISSED OFF and told him to never do that again. I saw it happening, and when I passed him, I slapped him on his behind to make him know. :lol: He didn't try again after that.
A mutual female friend of us licked my cheek once, and my girlfriend told her NOT to do that again.

:confused: I have weird friends :confused:

I think us guys are less annoyed/frightened when a girl compliments or gropes us, because we get less of that, and we are less frightened because we know we're much stronger. If a really big hairy woman would grope me, I'd probably feel the same way women do.

:confused: I have weird friends :confused:

I concur :p

If a really big hairy woman would grope me, I'd probably feel the same way women do.

Excellent point...I never thought about it that way. Scary.

Sexual harrassment! What is sexual harassment?! What's the difference between sexual harrassment and just being an idiot? I mean, if my father didn't harrass my mother, I wouldn't be here! I mean, I understand some sexual harrassment.. if a man is your boss and says, "Hey, sleep with me, or you're fired." That's sexual harrassment. And that's the only thing that's seual harrassment! Everything else falls under "Just trying to get laid." You can't put a man in jail for that! I don't care how hard he tries, that's all he was trying to do! Anita Hill started this whole thing. It's all about looks, you know? Because if Clarence Thomas looked like Denzel Washington, this would have never happened! She'd be all, "Oh, stop it, Clarence, you nasty! Your fine self!" So, what's sexual harrassment, when an ugly man wants some? "Oh, he ugly! Call the police! Call the authority!

-- Chris Rock