View Full Version : When seeking for advice do you ask only someone in better shape than you?


ghaynes
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 04:20 PM
I ask this because I was reading a Men's Health mag and came across an interview with Mark Wahlberg awhile back and he was stating, "When it comes to fitness I don't take any advice unless their in better shape than me."

I think that's pretty bold to discount anyone that might have something that he could use to improve, but I could see where he's coming from.

I don't know...what do you think? Do you not take someone's advice serious enough if their more out of shape than you are?

michael2938
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 04:32 PM
I agree for the most part, but there are exceptions. Some I can think of are older people, or ex bodybuilder's/fitness enthusiasts. People who are unable to train due to medical reasons, etc.

I would not hire an overweight trainer and I would take advice from a obese person who has never been even remotely close to seeing their own abs very lightly, if at all.

-Mike

1FastGTX
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 05:07 PM
I agree for the most part, but there are exceptions. Some I can think of are older people, or ex bodybuilder's/fitness enthusiasts. People who are unable to train due to medical reasons, etc.

I would not hire an overweight trainer and I would take advice from a obese person who has never been even remotely close to seeing their own abs very lightly, if at all.

-Mike
Good points. My trainer is 50-something years old, around 240 and 10% bodyfat. But if he was a little fatter or skinnier I'd still take his advice, because I know where he's been and what he's done.

Coachese
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 05:35 PM
I ask this because I was reading a Men's Health mag and came across an interview with Mark Wahlberg awhile back and he was stating, "When it comes to fitness I don't take any advice unless their in better shape than me."

I, for one, do not take any advice from Men's Health, Mark Wahlberg, or anyone that doesn't know the difference between their, they're or there.

$0.02

doordude42
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 06:01 PM
I, for one, do not take any advice from Men's Health, Mark Wahlberg, or anyone that doesn't know the difference between their, they're or there.

$0.02


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ...................................:claplow: :claplow: :claplow:

HevyMetal
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 10:19 PM
There are some boxing coaches around who are well past their prime but are regarded as legendary in the business.


And then there's ARNOLD..:eek: :eek: :eek:


(and also Burgess Meredith...RIP bud..)

chicanerous
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 11:14 PM
I'll take anyone's advice, but I'll evaluate it based on what I know and, if necessary, research it to make an informed decision. I hope people do the same when I try to give advice. :nod:

HevyMetal
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 11:25 PM
There are probably hundreds of coaches (Olympic and otherwise) who are not (Knot?)in as good a shape as their ( they're, there?) students.

But (butte?)a vast percentage of the star students wouldn't be (bee?)where (wear?)they are without those coaches.

They're...I'm done (dun?)

reanimated838uk
Mon, April 3rd, 2006, 11:33 PM
wouldn't make much sense to do research a 2nd time around though since you've already made an informed decision based on research out there. Hope that makes a bit of sense... it knockin on half 3 in the morning here and i'm trying to finish off my report...(argh!).

Anyway I take into the advice given. If it goes against whats the standard I will delve into it when I have more time, or I will try it out in the gym, or in the kitchen. Depending on what advice it is....

Shane Reid
Tue, April 4th, 2006, 03:59 AM
There are also some people who know a lot about the science behind a product, not everyone is in shape but I see where he's coming from not wanting advice form someone not as fit. But he's going to be missing some good info.

chicanerous I'll take anyone's advice, but I'll evaluate it based on what I know and, if necessary, research it to make an informed decision. I hope people do the same when I try to give advice

That's definitly the best advice.

HevyMetal
Thu, April 6th, 2006, 11:30 PM
If I want advice on bodybuilding I'd go to a bodybuilder. But he might not be in as good a shape as the soccer player who isn't in as good a shape as the marathon runner who isn't in as good a shape as the tae-kwon do practitioner in the dojo down the road.

So for Mark Wahlberg to say that, I would first like to know to what particular audience he is addressing.

Or does he think he's so good that he's in better shape than anybody in all aspects of fitness, sports and skill and conditioning/training?

Kino
Fri, April 7th, 2006, 09:58 AM
Couple of things here I'd like to touch on...not all of carved in stone, but something to consider, and some things that I've heard, that have just stuck with me over the years. (quotes noted as such)

"Advice is worth as much as you pay for it."

Where somebody is at today, may have no relevance to where they've been, or where they're going.

Personally (and I'm not advocating listening to me :lol: ), I've had my head buried in more fitness related material over the past 3 years, both text and internet...than I would ever be able to intergrate, benefit from or even absorb in that same time frame. (I've read and heard 5 similar yet conflicting views on flexibillity training in just the past 16 hours :eek: ) So you could say that there are cases where somebodies intellect could be way ahead of their physique or even their desire for a particular type of physique.

In this very forum, we're asking and taking advice from others that we've never seen or know anything about.

All information has some value...even if it's just that you recognize it as bullshit.

I think that Wahlberg just needs to learn how to practice humility. :whistle:

karatetricker
Fri, April 7th, 2006, 10:46 AM
I'll take advice or suggestions from almost anyone, however, I will utilize advice that I have seen work on others (or myself) before any advice I've never seen actually work in practice.

The person can be as out of shape as he wants if what he's preaching has been proven to be successful. However, if he has no proof it works, I'm not going to utilize his advice based on that and his lack of physique, because it obviously hasn't worked for him (either due to lack of effort or lack of efficacy).

I'll admit, I put a lot more stock in what someone says when they have the physique to back it. It may sound unfair or what have you, but if someone is very out of shape, you have no idea if what they're saying is true (unless they have clients or a past physique to prove it, of course). When someone is in excellent shape, they usually had to get there somehow...

Skoorb
Fri, April 7th, 2006, 11:05 AM
It's preferred but not necessary. I don't really care what a fatass has to say about dieting unless they have a reason they are obese right now but there are plenty of people in worse shape than me who know things I don't know...maybe they aren't applying them for one reason or another or maybe they are very good at cranking on muscle in no time but have a bad diet or whatever. Essentially, a person's current physical shape is not a totally accurate summation of their knowledge.

guava
Fri, April 7th, 2006, 11:55 AM
It only makes sense to take advice from people who have similar goals as your own. If my goal were to look like a fitness competitor, I think I'd be a lot more comfortable taking advice from someone is or who used to be a fitness competitor than someone who's just read the books. At the same time, if I never aspire to reach that level, I'd be more comfortable with someone who understands my lifestyle and expectations.

The most important training and diet techniques are the ones that are most enjoyable to me, and will result in the happiest healthiest me, not the stongest, leanest, or most muscular me. For that reason, I'm probably more inclined than other people might be to take advice from someone who doesn't look like a greek god/godess.

Kenpo Fist
Fri, April 7th, 2006, 09:48 PM
I'll take anyone's advice, but I'll evaluate it based on what I know and, if necessary, research it to make an informed decision. I hope people do the same when I try to give advice. :nod:

Well said.