Does anyone supplement with desiccated liver? Beverly International seems to be a huge proponent of this supplement with their Ultra 40.
Has anyone used this? Had success? Or should I save my money?

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Thanks in advance! :cool:

Mastoff is the man to ask. Hopefully he'll reply to this thread.

I will bump this in case Mastover or Kino see the thread...

I take liver tabs - but not Beverly (too pricey - good company, but pricey). I get a bottle of 500 for $12 or so. Coincidentally, I discovered the dogs love them (have 3 dogs), consequently the missus approved the supplement purchase and directed me to continue (no prob). Ironically, the liver tabs are cheaper than dog treats, and the dogs like them more...go figure...our older two dogs are on glucosamine/chondroitin/msm - pet brand was several times pricier than supplement version (guess that "liver-flavored coating" really jacks up the price :rolleyes: ), so bought the human version. As much of a racket as the supplement industry is, pet supplements are so much more...

Probably not what you were looking for....:neener:

Yep I use them and have gone upwards of 50 per day. Currently I like cycling them. 3 months on, 3 off. Pre-contest they become a staple. I use Beverly's.

Dessicated liver will help draw water out from the body, increases vascularity, and gets you hard and dry during the final week leading into a show, provided of coarse, that you have already done your homework in the fat loss department. Pre-contest, particularly the final week, they become invaluable.

Great for energy, and another method I like using is to chew (yes CHEW) them up for better absorption. Usually 20-30 during a 2 hour time span the night before a heavy training session, saturating my system with pure protein/nitrogen. Although I don't train for the pump, the next morning's session will produce some skin bursting pumps.

I will bump this in case Mastover or Kino see the thread...

I take liver tabs - but not Beverly (too pricey - good company, but pricey). I get a bottle of 500 for $12 or so. Coincidentally, I discovered the dogs love them (have 3 dogs), consequently the missus approved the supplement purchase and directed me to continue (no prob). Ironically, the liver tabs are cheaper than dog treats, and the dogs like them more...go figure...our older two dogs are on glucosamine/chondroitin/msm - pet brand was several times pricier than supplement version (guess that "liver-flavored coating" really jacks up the price :rolleyes: ), so bought the human version. As much of a racket as the supplement industry is, pet supplements are so much more...

Probably not what you were looking for....:neener:

What brand cajun?

I'm with my buddy up above...When I'm using them (I've still got a full container unopened in the closet) I chew em up at 5-6 per meal, averaging 25-30 per day. Think back to when you were a kid and ate dog biscuts just to see what was so appealing about them...Everybody else DID eat dog biscuts as a kid...didn't you? :lol:

Hey cajun...are you also over on the Gironda board?

Yep I use them and have gone upwards of 50 per day. Currently I like cycling them. 3 months on, 3 off. Pre-contest they become a staple. I use Beverly's.

Dessicated liver will help draw water out from the body, increases vascularity, and gets you hard and dry during the final week leading into a show, provided of coarse, that you have already done your homework in the fat loss department. Pre-contest, particularly the final week, they become invaluable.

Great for energy, and another method I like using is to chew (yes CHEW) them up for better absorption. Usually 20-30 during a 2 hour time span the night before a heavy training session, saturating my system with pure protein/nitrogen. Although I don't train for the pump, the next morning's session will produce some skin bursting pumps.




Thanks, I just recieved my Ultra 40 Friday (3/17). I plan to take about 3 with each meal, so 15 for the day (I can't afford to take 50/day). I'll up it to 4-5/meal in about a month. I will start Beverly's Muscularity BCAA's next week as well. :flex:

another method I like using is to chew (yes CHEW) them up for better absorption.


Ok, I just took my morning tablets, via CHEWING...:cry: With a quick water chaser! This is going to be an acquired taste. It tasted, well, like liver. But if it is better absorption, I'll try it!

Travis - Universal (poor man's Beverly).

Kino, you nailed the taste...I ate my dog's food once to teach her she better get eating or the big dog was going to eat her dinner (not sure if she ate because she was worried about getting food or worried she had a crazy owner:D )....Gironda board? No, I got too many boards as it is...need to go into rotation or something...is that over on vincegironda.com?

@ Mastover and Kino:

When you say you are eating upwards of 50 a day, do you mean plain old tabs or the Beverly's Ultra 40? I can't imagine you going through an entire large bottle of Ultra 40 in 10 days.

I'm looking into the Beverly's because I don't want the gas issues with plain tabs... but the recommended beverlys dose is 1 per day.

@ Mastover and Kino:

When you say you are eating upwards of 50 a day, do you mean plain old tabs or the Beverly's Ultra 40? I can't imagine you going through an entire large bottle of Ultra 40 in 10 days.

I'm looking into the Beverly's because I don't want the gas issues with plain tabs... but the recommended beverlys dose is 1 per day.

I use Beverly's (read my post above) I used to use Universal but the cramping and other stomach woes were too much to deal with.

As for dosage, I believe Bev's Ultra 40's are recommended 1 tab per 10lbs of bodyweight. I usually use 4-8 per meal, when I'm on them, and have gone as high as 50 per day, but very short term. Most often when on a heavy squat or deadlift cycle.

Whenever I do use the Ultra 40's my coffee consumption goes way down, and my energy and strength levels are noticably higher. Plus, I just plain feel good, if that makes sense. ;)

Thanks Mast, the label for Ultra 40's reads:

Suggested Use:
As a Dietary Supplement take one (1) tablet daily or as directed by your physician or health care professional.

1 Tablet Provides:
Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Amount Per Tablet: % Daily Valu
Vitamin B-12 (as cyanocobalamin) 75mcg. 1,250%
Liver ( as 4x concentrate) 2600mg. **


That's what's confusing me.

At the moment I'm supp'ing Amino 2222's throughout the day, BCAA's in my whey and additionally around lifting plus a multi (B12 etc) so I'm pretty much getting everything similarly...

I'd been pondering an "old-school meal plan" for a while, cream with whey, liver, etc...

Thanks Mast, the label for Ultra 40's reads:

Suggested Use:
As a Dietary Supplement take one (1) tablet daily or as directed by your physician or health care professional.

1 Tablet Provides:
Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Amount Per Tablet: % Daily Valu
Vitamin B-12 (as cyanocobalamin) 75mcg. 1,250%
Liver ( as 4x concentrate) 2600mg. **


That's what's confusing me.

At the moment I'm supp'ing Amino 2222's throughout the day, BCAA's in my whey and additionally around lifting plus a multi (B12 etc) so I'm pretty much getting everything similarly...

I'd been pondering an "old-school meal plan" for a while, cream with whey, liver, etc...

Hort,

Yes that is kind of misleading. Here is a better explanation:

http://www.beverlyinternational.com/products/ultra40.html

Gotcha-

Thanks bro.

Just started back into an open container the past couple of days. I'm taking 4 per meal at the moment (as long as I remember), but will usually take 5 per meal. I'll start chewing them up starting tomorrow morning... :drool:

Just started back into an open container the past couple of days. I'm taking 4 per meal at the moment (as long as I remember), but will usually take 5 per meal. I'll start chewing them up starting tomorrow morning... :drool:


Given the expense (assuming you are using Ultra) what do you get from this beyond the aminos? Mastover has mentioned appetite and dryness, not to issues I'm concerned with.

Just wondering considering I can supplement both broad spectrum and BCAA's for much cheaper.

:)

Given the expense (assuming you are using Ultra) what do you get from this beyond the aminos? Mastover has mentioned appetite and dryness, not to issues I'm concerned with.

Just wondering considering I can supplement both broad spectrum and BCAA's for much cheaper.

:)
You know what? I really can't say at this point. When I jumped on the diet given me by Beverly a few years back it was suggested that I should also begin with Ultra 40's and Mass Amino's as part of my supplement regimine.
With those and Ultra Size, my entire physique changed FAST. I've admitted to being all over the place with supplements over the past several years, so I'm not ashamed to say that I tried to find items that worked even better than Beverly's line. A while ago, I read on the Gironda board that if one had to choose between broad spectrum aminos and liver tabs, that the liver tabs would be the one to keep. I've had enough injuries over the past several years that it didn't make any sense to me to keep spending money on the amount of supplements that I had gotten used too. So the Ultra 40's slipped to the side even though I had an un-opened container on the shelf.
Masts' comment about driness caught my attention a while back. I know that he continues to learn more and more about the same supplements that I was taking, so that comment stuck out in my mind. I've got about 2/3's of a container that I'm digging into now, to see exactly what the effects are. I'm not taking everything else that I use to, so it will be easier to quantify any changes. Besides...I trust Mast completely.
Actually...I've got an NA picinic that I'm going too this Saturday, and I want to make sure that I don't look like a slouch. :lol: Maybe I'll even get a more current photo for my profile.
Beyond that...I'm going to have to get back to you on the results.

Yup Walt... we just keep going at it and trying different things. :D

I'll say this though about aminos whether through liver or 2222's or BCAA's... it really seems to be making a significant difference in my body comp while cutting. My muscle "saving" and even gains are noticeable.

I am getting either BCAA's or full spectrum Amino's almost every hour from about 6a-9p and I really do think it's making a difference. (To be fair, I have switched to an HST-type lifting routine using progressive loads so I may be reacting positively to that as well.

If I may add to what I said up top, the drying affects of the U40 will become much more noticable during the FINAL WEEK LEADING INTO A SHOW. Just wanted to avoid confusion here. Yes, you will experience muscle hardness, vascularity, etc., but unless the body is in a sensitive, carb, calorie depleted state (the ass end of a contest diet) these changes will be nowhere as profound.

If someone is not training for a bodybuilding show, I'd use the Ultra 40's to supplement my protein amounts for the day, and for increased strength and energy levels in the gym.

Depending on what other "extras' you get from them, is a matter of your genetic makeup. For me, that translates to higher squat and deadlift numbers during my offseason.