They found a hormone which is a huge appetite supressant and which reduces weight gain:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4425806.stm

Wonder if it will be of any practical use?

Wonder if it will be of any practical use?

Good post, thanks.

I'm gonna rant a little... just 'cause.

People will take a pill, if they offer one. Hey, one less thing to think about. Convenience, man. We love it! Hey, it's one less thing to make us think at all! Free will is already on life support... a drug like this could pull the plug. They're cultivating a society of human robots. Free will, eroded just a little more. Imagine, the whole world no longer having to exercise self-control now! A pill would regulate appetite for us and c'mon, we'd flock to it in droves. Wow... think of it. Programmed by our televisions, we consume because Ronald Mcdonald tells us to. And then we run to Pfizer to give us back our svelte selves, while we consume more drugs to offset the side effects of all the other drugs we take for heartburn, asthma, headaches, backaches, footaches and hey... throw in a little blue pill so I can get my freak on, too!

People will take a pill, if they offer one. Free thinking will take yet another hit. Hey... it's one less thing to think about. I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies are salivating over this like a pack of wild dogs on a fresh kill.

-R

Appetite plays such a small role in overeating; I'm surprised that this is being reported upon in such glowing terms.

There are plenty of appetite suppressants out there, which would lead you to think that obesity wouldn't be running as rampant in our country as it is. But eating nowadays is rarely about hunger...true hunger. It's about emotional eating, and the supersizing of portions in restaurants and the relative cheapness and convenience of unhealthy food.

It seems every other year, there's a new "miracle cure" for obesity, but obesity isn't about being hungry all the time. How many people on this board, even, chronically under-ate and then binged because of social or emotional pressure?

When a true body-transforming drug is created, I'd wager that fat will be the new beauty. It's all about having what's more difficult to get.

Good post, thanks.

I'm gonna rant a little... just 'cause.

People will take a pill, if they offer one. Hey, one less thing to think about. Convenience, man. We love it! Hey, it's one less thing to make us think at all! Free will is already on life support... a drug like this could pull the plug. They're cultivating a society of human robots. Free will, eroded just a little more. Imagine, the whole world no longer having to exercise self-control now! A pill would regulate appetite for us and c'mon, we'd flock to it in droves. Wow... think of it. Programmed by our televisions, we consume because Ronald Mcdonald tells us to. And then we run to Pfizer to give us back our svelte selves, while we consume more drugs to offset the side effects of all the other drugs we take for heartburn, asthma, headaches, backaches, footaches and hey... throw in a little blue pill so I can get my freak on, too!

People will take a pill, if they offer one. Free thinking will take yet another hit. Hey... it's one less thing to think about. I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies are salivating over this like a pack of wild dogs on a fresh kill.

-R


surely free will is having the choice to take the pill or not, eat mcdonalds or not.

Now they just need a pill that gives one an unavoidable obsession with the treadmill. A pill to turn off the TV, and a pill to replace one's car with a bike. That drug cocktail might actually work. However, be aware that side effects may include explosive diarrhea, headaches, cramps, rashes, bird flu, uncontrollable laughing, red-eye and spontaneous transformation into a wolf-like creature.

"We should be able to control appetite within five to 10 years." Bullsh*t. Either that doctor's an imbecile, or he's trying to drum up money/support for this. Now responsible researcher would make such a claim based upon this discovery. We've already seen a bunch of so-called fixes, and they all fall flat because there's no one single thing that can prevent a person from overeating except their own will power and self-respect.

[QUOTE=btimby]Now they just need a pill that gives one an unavoidable obsession with the treadmill. QUOTE]
Right on!:nod:

controlling overeating is not a fix for poor food choice.

This is yet another crock by the pharm machine, that will end up doing lots of harm in the name of modern medicine and the almighty dollar.:bang:

Good post, thanks.

I'm gonna rant a little... just 'cause.

People will take a pill, if they offer one. Hey, one less thing to think about. Convenience, man. We love it! Hey, it's one less thing to make us think at all! Free will is already on life support... a drug like this could pull the plug. They're cultivating a society of human robots. Free will, eroded just a little more. Imagine, the whole world no longer having to exercise self-control now! A pill would regulate appetite for us and c'mon, we'd flock to it in droves. Wow... think of it. Programmed by our televisions, we consume because Ronald Mcdonald tells us to. And then we run to Pfizer to give us back our svelte selves, while we consume more drugs to offset the side effects of all the other drugs we take for heartburn, asthma, headaches, backaches, footaches and hey... throw in a little blue pill so I can get my freak on, too!

People will take a pill, if they offer one. Free thinking will take yet another hit. Hey... it's one less thing to think about. I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies are salivating over this like a pack of wild dogs on a fresh kill.

-R

If anything it will just be a weight loss aid. Not gonna be a magic bullet. And it doesn't mean people still won't have to exercises self-control.

Good post, thanks.

I'm gonna rant a little... just 'cause.

People will take a pill, if they offer one. Hey, one less thing to think about. Convenience, man. We love it! Hey, it's one less thing to make us think at all! Free will is already on life support... a drug like this could pull the plug. They're cultivating a society of human robots. Free will, eroded just a little more. Imagine, the whole world no longer having to exercise self-control now! A pill would regulate appetite for us and c'mon, we'd flock to it in droves. Wow... think of it. Programmed by our televisions, we consume because Ronald Mcdonald tells us to. And then we run to Pfizer to give us back our svelte selves, while we consume more drugs to offset the side effects of all the other drugs we take for heartburn, asthma, headaches, backaches, footaches and hey... throw in a little blue pill so I can get my freak on, too!

People will take a pill, if they offer one. Free thinking will take yet another hit. Hey... it's one less thing to think about. I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies are salivating over this like a pack of wild dogs on a fresh kill.

-R

Hey, it's a Brave New World. Conform or live with the savages.

They found a hormone which is a huge appetite supressant and which reduces weight gain:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4425806.stm

Wonder if it will be of any practical use?


HMMMMMMMM.:confused: Injection in the brain.:doh: :eek: I'm pretty sure that would help suppress anyone or anythings appetite.:whistle:

If anything it will just be a weight loss aid. Not gonna be a magic bullet. And it doesn't mean people still won't have to exercises self-control.

Yeah, I decided to stop waiting for the magic bullet....Knowing me, I'd shoot myself in the foot with it anyway!

Yeah, I decided to stop waiting for the magic bullet....Knowing me, I'd shoot myself in the foot with it anyway!The closest thing we've seen so far to a magic bullet is gastric bypass surgery, which has a pretty high success rate. The only draw back is the whole risk-of-death thing, which is actually quite high, and the fact that the occasional over indulgence (which we all love) is quite impossible afterwards.

The closest thing we've seen so far to a magic bullet is gastric bypass surgery, which has a pretty high success rate. The only draw back is the whole risk-of-death thing, which is actually quite high, and the fact that the occasional over indulgence (which we all love) is quite impossible afterwards.


Yeah, that whole tricky "risk of death" thing!:lol: :lol: :lol:

So many great quips in this thread! I'm not gonna compete on quips.
I almost added, "Ditto Bluestreak." to my signature, to honor him,
after reading his rant. Then I hesitated, and read down...
Lefty made a pretty good point there.

Maybe the neurologists or brain chemists, or some other -ists
could get people whipped into a frenzy about thinking right
and invent a pill that compels people to take personal responsibility.
I'm doing better than ever in that department,
the tpr department, and besides, I don't want to take any more pills!
But my weight just keeps going up anyway.

But maybe the ideal tpr pill would work for the food choices,
then, induce a side effect of never wanting to take another pill, ever.

So many great quips in this thread! I'm not gonna compete on quips.
I almost added, "Ditto Bluestreak." to my signature, to honor him,
after reading his rant. Then I hesitated, and read down...
Lefty made a pretty good point there.

Maybe the neurologists or brain chemists, or some other -ists
could get people whipped into a frenzy about thinking right
and invent a pill that compels people to take personal responsibility.
I'm doing better than ever in that department,
the tpr department, and besides, I don't want to take any more pills!
But my weight just keeps going up anyway.

But maybe the ideal tpr pill would work for the food choices,
then, induce a side effect of never wanting to take another pill, ever.
Since i like to pat myself on the back, there are two kinds of people in this world: those who give a damn about themselves and take pro-active measures to better their lives and futures, and those who do not. Most of us here fall into the first category, and it's imperative that a person does before they take on and achieve any goal they may have. Many people fall into the second category. They are not hard categories, and people can easily go in and out of either one.

Eating cleanly and losing weight is something even the laziest, most pathetic people have done at some point in their life. They generally give up, though. It's those with the serious self-discipline who keep it going, and who get back on the horse time and time again. I think it requires a pivotal, if nebulous, shift in one's life. Once a person realizes that they've taken full and utter control over their body, they start to assert the same control in other areas, and they feel at the reigns of their life, instead of led around like a dumb puppy. This is why you see a correlation between self-care and business success or familial success or anything that requires constant attention and due diligence.

I may be simplifying it a bit, but I'm sure many of us know a person who does nothing to better himself, ever. He goes to work because he has to, his finances suck, he eats crap all day, and comes home, sits in front of the tv with a beer, and goes to bed. He's doing the same thing now he did a year ago, or ten years ago. he's had no meaningful adventures in his life or points he can look at and say "yeah, that was different". He's the same person he was a decade ago with nothing on his life's resume that speaks of anything interesting or unusual.

So-called miracle pills have a target audience of that guy in the above paragraph. The rest of us don't need it. Very few of us are at our potential in life, whether it's solving a murder, inventing a new medicine (for a real disease like cancer, not some bogus garbage like obesity), or maxing out on our genetics. I've met very few people, if any, who are so "full of life" that they're bouncing from one thing to a next, going hardcore all the damn time...the kind of people who scale mountains and then make $10 M in a business deal, but I've met very many people indeed who slouch through life and do nothing of meaning; in essense nothing about them is envied at all. They are not the model person in anything they do.

Since i like to pat myself on the back, there are two kinds of people in this world: those who give a damn about themselves and take pro-active measures to better their lives and futures, and those who do not. Most of us here fall into the first category, and it's imperative that a person does before they take on and achieve any goal they may have.... It's those with the serious self-discipline who keep it going, and who get back on the horse time and time again. I think it requires a pivotal, if nebulous, shift in one's life. Once a person realizes that they've taken full and utter control over their body, they start to assert the same control in other areas, and they feel at the reigns of their life, instead of led around like a dumb puppy. This is why you see a correlation between self-care and business success or familial success or anything that requires constant attention and due diligence.

I may be simplifying it a bit, but I'm sure many of us know a person who does nothing to better himself, ever.

Well spake, Skoorb! :tu:
Reading what you said made that salad I fixed for myself tonight
seem lots more important, and lots more sensible,
than the bowl of ice cream I denied myself.

I am still nuts,
still probably closer to that sad sack you described at the end,
still not eating like the more succesful JSF-ers,
but I'm beyond the nuts of a dumb puppy,
and progressing, even if like a snail climbing El Capitan,
or the spawning salmon jumping over and over
to breach that one waterfall, or upstream bunches of waterfalls.
Now it's late and I need to get some sleep for Saturday a.m. exercise!

Kind of ironic they named Obestatin like the word, Obese.