I've never done any steroids nor do I ever plan to but this video report is interesting.

If this has been posted before sorry.

http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv (29 mb)

I've never done any steroids nor do I ever plan to but this video report is interesting.

If this has been posted before sorry.

http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv (29 mb)


Very interesting. I've seen that before and agree that steroids like most other drugs are fairly safe if used and not abused. Unfortunately, that's often not the case.

Even if steroids are perfectly ok.. I still believe its cheating, to me. I would never take them.

I've never done any steroids nor do I ever plan to but this video report is interesting.

If this has been posted before sorry.

http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv (29 mb)

I'm certainly no expert on steroids by any means, but I have read that steroids can be hard on the liver (especially orals) -- but one of the difficult things about steroid use is that even if steroids is the culprit, it is hard to separate that out from natural causes. For example, suppose the extra androgens in your system facilitate the growth of a prostate tumor. How can you prove it was caused by the steroids? Or suppose the negative affect on lipid profiles causes you to develop atherosclerosis and heart disease. How do you prove it was the steroids that did that? I've also read that steroids are associated with enlarged hearts, which also increases risk of heart attack. I think the problem is that it is hard to quantitatively link these outcomes specifically to steroid use....even if steroid use is the underlying cause.

But, it has to make you wonder though .... why so many bodybuilders/professional wrestlers have so many health problems and die at young ages when seemingly, they get more exercise and eat healthier than 99% of the general pop. It does make you wonder.

Also, it may not kill you, but, the thought of damaging joints and ligaments as your muscle strength outpaces the ability of your other structures to keep up doesn't sound too pleasant either.

Very interesting. I've seen that before and agree that steroids like most other drugs are fairly safe if used and not abused. Unfortunately, that's often not the case.

i deffinately agree...everything in moderation as the old saying goes...

i wouldnt take steroids because i have better things to spend money on, i get great results without the help of steroids.

personally i think alcohol is a far bigger killer than steroids, hell steroids and most recreational drugs put together... but alcohol is ok...cuz its a good taxable drug.

Even if steroids are perfectly ok.. I still believe its cheating, to me. I would never take them.



So what is the difference between steroids and any other supplement?

I have testosterone in my blood...I get a prescription for test and increase the amount in my blood.

I have creatine in my blood....I got to GNC and get some some creatine and increase the amount in my blood.

Thus, people who are taking creatine are cheaters.

I'll check that out. I'm against them simply because they do have health detriment effects (even if not as massive as many will claim), they're expensive/risky, and they will likely encourage a psychological addiction. All this for something a person does recreationally makes no sense. If muscle is your bread and butter, I can understand it, but to put an extra half inch on an arm you only show off at the beach with friends or in the bedroom, LAME. A person can look damn good without touching steroids or any supplements, for that matter.

Horrible analogy, but i still love ya.

A) People shouldnt shop at GNC.
B) Injecting hormones is far different than taking creatine, which is simply a combination of three different amino acids. Creatine is also found at a concentration of four grams per kilogram of meat. Then, is eating meat cheating too?

How much GH or testosterone do people get directly from their food?


So what is the difference between steroids and any other supplement?

I have testosterone in my blood...I get a prescription for test and increase the amount in my blood.

I have creatine in my blood....I got to GNC and get some some creatine and increase the amount in my blood.

Thus, people who are taking creatine are cheaters.

Just watched it. The problem is that it's very difficult to prove causality in ANYTHING. It doesn't mean it's not there, but it's just very hard to do. Take another health concern: running encourages joint damage if done long term. The data? Doesn't exist. There is no scientific consensus that long term distance running exacerbates joint damage, whatsoever.

Unfortunately, almost all scientific studies of this nature look at correlational data only. Controlling for everything, especially over a long period of time, is almost impossible.

That's why fitness and diet recommendations change all the time. Somebody realizes they missed a key fact, or they see a new trend or whatever and then they say it's the thing to do. All of us are guessing, whether we're taking roids or creatine or extra protein.

I'm a firm believer in the butterfly effect, though. Any time something is done, there is a repercussion. It may not be immediately evident, but everything you do has a consequence. Taking steroids, or anything, is not an inconsequential act. Whether chronic steroid use makes one healthier or less healthy is up for debate, but it's definitely doing something.

A) People shouldnt shop at GNC.


ha! Glad to see the Larry David Avatar again.

I wish that steroids were not so frequently abused. I think like all medications they have a very important place when properly used. I can't say I would take them any time soon, but I wouldn't rule it out as I get up there in age. I would like to see more research in the area of Hormone Replacement as I think they could really benefit men once their bodies begin to slow T-production naturally.