I hear that whey protein gets absorbed fast, and i have been having it at night for a last meal.

What are other protein powders (lik egg) that are slower digesting?

Or, is there anything i can add to the whey to slow it down?

I have 2 scoops of Designer Whey GlycerLEAN every night before bed. It is a time release protein powder that each serving digests over 8 hours I believe. I use the ABSBerry (Strawberry) in 12oz water and some ice and blend it. Tastes GREAT and supplies me with protein overnight.

sounds good, where did u order it from, online or store?

What is the protein mix/ingrdients/stats?

There are not nearly as many slow digesting protein options as there are whey suppliments. I think most people eat cottage cheese at night for their slow release protein. I believe milk protein is 80% casein protein and 20% whey. Casein is the slow digesting brother of whey. It's also supposed to make whey digest slower. Using whey in milk or some other dairy product should slow down the absorption.

If you are looking for a suppliment to take, look for something with casein and/or milk protein as it's major ingredients.

There are not nearly as many slow digesting protein options as there are whey suppliments. I think most people eat cottage cheese at night for their slow release protein. I believe milk protein is 80% casein protein and 20% whey. Casein is the slow digesting brother of whey. It's also supposed to make whey digest slower. Using whey in milk or some other dairy product should slow down the absorption.

If you are looking for a suppliment to take, look for something with casein and/or milk protein as it's major ingredients.

--D-- is right as usual.

I'll also chip in two answers, depending on your level of comfort with supplementation.

1.) Cottage cheese. Really, this is great, it's what I do personally a lot of the time.

2.) Get yourself over to www.proteinfactory.com (http://www.proteinfactory.com) and choose their "night" formula (http://proteinfactory.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=83&osCsid=220dcd75f259aaa916ccbdfe726ab967). Great stuff, mix in some flax oil or peanut butter with it.

Egg protein is slow absorbing as well

Whey - add a tbsp. of oil to it, flax, hemp, or fish oil, this will slow absorption way down.

The stuff I use is from BodyBuilding.com (or any local store).

1 serving is 2 scoops and has 190 calories, 1.5g fat, 4 carbs and 35g protein.

metRX used to make a casein based powder that tasted awesome, but I can't find it anymore. I can't remember the name either.

When cutting, I use cottage cheese, and when bulking I have a bowl of oatmeal with a lot of skim.

sorry karatetricker but I have read nothing but bad reviews for glycerlean....

I would recommend cottage cheese at night but if you're like me and can't stand to eat that every night, I have tried to a bunch of different blends:

Protein Customizer: awesome price and you know exactly what its in it
Isomatrix Reloaded: nothing touches this when you look at price, servings, BCAA, arginine, glutamine, and #1TASTE!!

There are other choices albeit more costly and I would recommned SAN Infusion (best tasting) and Beverly Ultra size (good overall)

~moe

sorry karatetricker but I have read nothing but bad reviews for glycerlean....

Any links? I bought it after hearing some positive ones from people who had used it. I'd be curious to see the other side.

I know it has already been said in here, but I would like to cheap in: I eat a serving of fat-free/low sodium cottage cheese 45minutes before I go to sleep.
If you don't like the taste of plain cottage cheese, you may (as I do sometomes) at a couple of strawberies, or any other berries. Just don't overdose yourself with carbs.

Basically, Next Nutrition has been suspect on all merchandise they have put out since the Detour Bar debacle....
http://www.labelclaimstesting.com/?pageID=4&mp=9&

Relating directly to Whey with "Glycerlean", apparently glycerlean doesnt do much to slow digestion of whey, and its just basically a real formulated Designer Whey. Its another scam to turn a product and charge more because of its marketing.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=215658&highlight=glycerlean
http://www.musclemag.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68797&highlight=glycerlean
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5956&highlight=glycerlean

Sorry, some of these forums you may have to sign up for but you get the jist of each one since they are generally all saying the same thing.

~moe

Hmm... well I'm not saying GlycerLEAN is the best, because I have no scientific proof, but neither do the 2-3 guys bashing it in those threads. They did not get their information from any studies so their word is worth as much as anyone else's. Like I said, I read several reviews of people who liked it a lot, so it's hard to tell without any study done on it. I searched google for like an hour yesterday trying to find a REAL REVIEW and found NONE, so I guess until I do, I'll keep using it since I have 4 lbs left.

I agree with karatetricker that there is no proof Glycerlean is a scam. I know a lot of people who are using it, and are very satisfied with it. I think that people on those formums haven't realy tried it but just read about it.
But it is a little overpriced.

why not give us before and after stats after u finish? If u go up, i definitly think its worth it.

THe micelar protein is way too expensive. I like my 22 dollar, 6 lb whey from Costcos. I think ill add some fish oil for digestion, agree?

On a similar note, that site mentioned above is scary. That isomatrix protein is off by like 80 cals!! That may not seem lke much, but if ur real gritty with numbers, 2 servings is like 175 cals u dont even know about!!

Sorry, I don't mean to totally dismiss Glycerlean, but there are several better choices out there. I would just suggest getting a protein with Casein in it and you should be set. Although glycerlean has been proven to slow the rate of digestion, it doesn't even compare to casein. What I mean is it is "sort of a waste of money" because it isnt much slower than just regular whey.

But hey, everyone reacts differently and if you are getting good results with it...keep using it. But also if you haven't tried any other sustained proteins...give Syntrax Isomatrix Reloaded.

~moe

THe micelar protein is way too expensive. I like my 22 dollar, 6 lb whey from Costcos. I think ill add some fish oil for digestion, agree?

On a similar note, that site mentioned above is scary. That isomatrix protein is off by like 80 cals!! That may not seem lke much, but if ur real gritty with numbers, 2 servings is like 175 cals u dont even know about!!

I'm with you on sticking with regular whey, but then again now I have more time to cook so I don't need that mid-day shake anymore. Fish oil will slow digestion but not to the degree you are looking for. I'd suggest eating regular food especially if you have the time.

Also Isomatrix is off because Syntrax messed up on their serving estimates...which now that I think about is it little more disturbing than i originally thought. However, if you think about it, there are actually more servings per jug than the label says so your getting your moneys worth. :tu:

last post on subject....promise

i found a couple of smaller studies first:

"The mechanism underlying hypertriglyceridemia-associated insulin resistance in humans remains poorly understood. It has been proposed that hypertriglyceridemia only produces insulin resistance when associated with an increased lipid delivery to muscle. Accordingly, hypertriglyceridemia secondary to a decreased clearance of triglyceride-rich particles should not cause insulin resistance. To verify this hypothesis, we assessed whole body and adipose tissue insulin sensitivity in 15 healthy male volunteers before and after a 5-day administration of isotretinoin (1 mg/kg/d), a vitamin A derivative that decreases the clearance of triglyceride-rich particles. Whole body insulin-mediated glucose disposal (6,6 (2)H(2)glucose), glucose oxidation (indirect calorimetry), lipolysis ((2)H(5) glycerol), and subcutaneous adipose lipolysis (microdialysis) were evaluated during a 3-step hyperinsulinemic euglycemic clamp. Isotretinoin increased plasma triglyceride from 0.97 +/- 0.15 to 1.30 +/- 0.22 mmol/L (P <.02), but did not change whole body insulin-mediated glucose disposal and lipolysis. These observations are consistent with an isotretinoin-induced inhibition of very-low-density lipoprotein (VLDL)-triglyceride clearance. The suppression of endogenous glucose production and the reduction in subcutaneous adipose glycerol concentrations by insulin remained equally unaffected after isotretinoin administration. We conclude that the impaired clearance of triglyceride-rich particles secondary to a 5-day isotretinoin administration does not impair insulin-mediated antilipolysis or glucose disposal. The data support the concept that hypertriglyceridemia-associated insulin resistance develops primarily when triglyceride production is increased."

Stoll D, Binnert C, Mooser V, Tappy L. Institute of Physiology, University of Lausanne School of Medicine, Switzerland.

The way I understand it is the higher levels of glycerine will slow the rate of protein synthesis. However....

"Food bar manufacturers keep trying to convince consumers that they've found the holy grail of sweeteners. They often reference a single research study in which glycerine was administered to subjects following a 36 hour fast. The introduction of glycerine to these test subjects caused a minimal elevation in blood sugar levels. This seemed to be all the information the food bar manufacturers needed. However, the Glycerine research that is available is not conclusive with regard to its total gluconeogenic properties.

The fate of glycerine once it enters the body is highly suspect depending mostly on an individual's energy storage status at the time of consumption. Too many people believe if Glycerine does not significantly elevate blood sugar or insulin levels, then it does not promote the storage of excess fat. By definition, Glycerine is a trihydric alcohol and is the building block of all plant oils and nearly all animal fats. Glycerine is a fat precursor that is incorporated into fat production by providing the backbone to which fatty acids to attach in the creation of fat in the human body."
www.consumerlabreports.com

Glycerine doesn't react as expected in the body due to its attraction to fatty acids rather than raising insulin resistance.

thats it

~moe