View Full Version : more layers=more cals burned=more fat burn?


sharaabi
Mon, September 5th, 2005, 11:46 PM
I have a clean diet,good cardio (HIIT) and a decent lifting program. Im seeing the results I want but waiting for my last 15lb of stubborn fat to go in about 6-7 weeks.



I know sitting in a suana,steam room and jus sweating causes you to loose water weight which can be gained back if i drink fluids again.



questions:

1. Isnt our body 65-70% water?



2. If I wear a t-shirt and a hoody and long pants and do cardio, doesnt that mean when i work hard = more sweat = MORE CALORIES BURNED which eventually = MORE FAT LOSS?? :jumping:

DTRG
Mon, September 5th, 2005, 11:54 PM
I know sitting in a suana,steam room and jus sweating causes you to loose water weight which can be gained back if i drink fluids again.


questions:

1. Isnt our body 65-70% water?

Yes



2. If I wear a t-shirt and a hoody and long pants and do cardio, doesnt that mean when i work hard = more sweat = MORE CALORIES BURNED which eventually = MORE FAT LOSS??

You answered your own question above, its gunna be just water weight



^^^^^^

gonzomagic
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 07:16 AM
^^^^^^

Isnt Sweat just water. I always thought you would lose the same amount of calories as wearing thinner clothes.

Maybe the process of sweating and body working harder to keep body cool is in it self energy consuming.

DTRG
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 09:01 AM
Isnt Sweat just water. I always thought you would lose the same amount of calories as wearing thinner clothes.

Maybe the process of sweating and body working harder to keep body cool is in it self energy consuming.


yeah thats what im saying. i think if you throw on extra layers to sweat more, youd be sweating more sure,but any extra weight would be water weight. i really dont think itd be worth it, even if you ARE burning extra calories, itd just be uncomfortable.

sharaabi
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 11:04 AM
yeah thats what im saying. i think if you throw on extra layers to sweat more, youd be sweating more sure,but any extra weight would be water weight. i really dont think itd be worth it, even if you ARE burning extra calories, itd just be uncomfortable.

I agree with the uncomfortable part for sure. Other than the sweating part I was just wondering if it maybe burned a good significant ammount of calories.

curvature
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 11:14 AM
Even if the amount you sweat is directly proportional to the extra calories you might burn from wearing extra layers of clothing (and I don't think that it is, although wouldn't that be nice), I don't think it's worth being highly uncomfortable to burn those extra few calories.

If you want to burn more calories, just work out dressed like a normal person and do extra cardio. :tucool:

karatetricker
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 11:15 AM
I agree with the uncomfortable part for sure. Other than the sweating part I was just wondering if it maybe burned a good significant ammount of calories.

I have no science backing me, but I wouldn't think so. I think you're taking to too much to the extreme and if you are not seeing results you would like to, consider what else may holding you back. The only people I know who purposely wear sweatshirts/garbage bags during cardio for extreme water weight loss are wrestlers trying to make weight. I can't see it being very healthy, especially if done regularly.

wizdum
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 12:10 PM
I sweat my ass off every summer and I never lose extra weight unless I dont eat as much so the answer is NO its just water weight.

TheLemonSong
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 12:22 PM
The one to ask about this is Boxer-in-Training, a ten spot says she knows.

jsbrook
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 12:28 PM
yeah thats what im saying. i think if you throw on extra layers to sweat more, youd be sweating more sure,but any extra weight would be water weight. i really dont think itd be worth it, even if you ARE burning extra calories, itd just be uncomfortable.

It's a sure way to get dehydrated and/or heatstroke and other adverse symptoms. Other than that, I don't know how you'd be benefiting yourself.

sharaabi
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 01:04 PM
if im burning just water weight and NOT fat, then isnt the body 60%ish water?

curvature
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 01:10 PM
if im burning just water weight and NOT fat, then isnt the body 60%ish water?


I'm missing this here. What is it you're trying to ask?

philph
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 01:43 PM
Regarding the body being a certain percentage of water: yes - a lot of the body is amde of water. If you get dehydrated, there will be less water. Now, there are two thigns that can happen subsequently:

1. You drink enough water to be re-hydrated, and back to normal; or

2. You deliberately stay dehydrated. This continues for a certain period of time until one of the two possible cases:

a) you decide to remedy the situation by going to outcome #1 above.

b) you are forced by ill-health / poor gym performance to remedy the situation by going to outcome #1 above.

So, in all cases, what is gained?

It seems to me that you're betetr off concentrating on avoiding dehydration, so that your health and gym performance are maximised. That in itself will BOOST your calorie- and fat-cutting efforts!

jsbrook
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 02:43 PM
if im burning just water weight and NOT fat, then isnt the body 60%ish water?

So? You need to keep hydrated to feel well and maintain good health. Being dehydrated is only acceptable for very short periods such as a competition. It will not make you look any better regardless unless you're already at a very low bodyfat.

PeteBDawg
Tue, September 6th, 2005, 03:16 PM
To add, you've got it backwards. You're looking at the wrong end of the equation.

More calories = more heat coming from your body, not more heat going into your body.

If you layer up and stay hot all the time, your body will actually burn fewer calories than if you go out in a t-shirt in the cold, regardless of how much or how little you sweat, because it will need to use less fuel to keep warm.

Of course, I don't recommend staying freezing cold all the time, as eventually that will lower your metabolism as you get lethargic while approaching hypothermia and freezing to death.

But a lot of people will recommend drinking ice cold water for this very reason - you want to give your body encouragement to give off more heat, not take in more heat.

nazardo
Wed, September 7th, 2005, 07:09 PM
I've noticed that when I do cardio on a really hot day I don't have to work as hard to get my heartrate to where I want it to be. I figure the increased heat puts more stress on the body and the heart has to push harder. So a slightly slower pace than I normally go at gets me to the same heartrate, which technically would still burn the same amount of calories. If you have more clothes on perhaps the increased heat works the same?

Please note that all of the above is my own crazy reasoning -- I'm not a scientist and more likely than not shouldn't be chipping in on this topic ;-)

Nico
Wed, September 7th, 2005, 08:26 PM
I agree with the earlier poster about creating heat-when you sweat your body is cooling itself, not heating. therefore it would seem that running outside in the cold nakked would be the best cardio.

Now let's all go streaking in the quad...

Breadman
Thu, September 8th, 2005, 10:40 AM
Hey




I have a clean diet,good cardio (HIIT) and a decent lifting program. Im seeing the results I want but waiting for my last 15lb of stubborn fat to go in about 6-7 weeks.



I know sitting in a suana,steam room and jus sweating causes you to loose water weight which can be gained back if i drink fluids again.



questions:

1. Isnt our body 65-70% water?



2. If I wear a t-shirt and a hoody and long pants and do cardio, doesnt that mean when i work hard = more sweat = MORE CALORIES BURNED which eventually = MORE FAT LOSS?? :jumping:
Hey
I'm in the same boat, I can't seem to get the last 10-15 pounds
off. I have very good muscle mass. I'm 5'10" 185# If you have any
good advice let me know!

zenpharaohs
Thu, September 8th, 2005, 11:54 AM
I have a clean diet,good cardio (HIIT) and a decent lifting program. Im seeing the results I want but waiting for my last 15lb of stubborn fat to go in about 6-7 weeks.

I know sitting in a suana,steam room and jus sweating causes you to loose water weight which can be gained back if i drink fluids again.

Actually, a tiny bit of that weight is real weight. When the body cools itself with sweat, a small amount of energy is expended to increase circulation and produce sweat.

On the other hand, the body is pretty efficient at cooling, so in order to get rid of a lot of fat by overheating, you have to expose yourself to too much heat.

What works better, and is much safer, is to spend that time doing cardio.

sharaabi
Thu, September 8th, 2005, 12:59 PM
Hey





Hey
I'm in the same boat, I can't seem to get the last 10-15 pounds
off. I have very good muscle mass. I'm 5'10" 185# If you have any
good advice let me know!


shocking the body doing ONLY meat and veggies for a week, timed carb diet, carb cycling, HIIT, pyramid lifting.... ive tried a lot, gotta experiment and see what works best.

PERSONALLY, timed carb diet works average with me. NO carbs all day, only pre and post workout, and on non lifting days... cut off of 3pm.