I couldn't find a great link for this fight, but Ann Wolfe is the best pound-for-pound female boxer out there right now and she's going to fight a man in an upcoming fight!

I don't know that this has happened before. I saw them both on TV and they look to be evenly matched in terms of height, weight, age, reach and record (almost identical). The difference is that he's got the "You'd better win or else you've lost to a girl.." motivation and she's got the "I'm gonna whoop his ass!" mentality.

Now I'm not a bettin' man...but I think she's going to POUND him! :flex:

I don't know that this has happened before.
It hasn't.

Personally, and I hope boxer-in-training forgives me for this, I think this is a terrible idea. Wolfe said that she needs to fight a man because there's no other women for her to fight, and I can understand that, but this is just an awful idea.

The only way she beats him is if she wins by decision, boxing him and staying on the outside the whole fight, to which everyone will respond, "well that was boring!"

I have to agree, I just can't see how this could be considered a good idea. You say they are matched for weight but we all know men have greater muscle mass per kg (and therefore greater strength) than the average female. I cant think of any sport where there is more importance on using your mass to attack or defend. This could read like a chauvinistic post, but it isnt.

I'm not sure whats worse, losing to a girl or knocking a girl out :p

Adrian

Edit: At the risk of sounding like an even bigger chauvinistic pig, I'm suprised this Bo Skipper would agree to such a thing, I would think it could harm his career, and in my mind it almost makes a farce of him and his profession.

This could read like a chauvinistic post, but it isnt.
I felt weird writing my reply, too.

Another interesting point is that men train and fight 3 minute rounds and women train and fight 2 minute rounds. That extra minute, whether it's an extra minute she has to fight or an extra minute that he doesn't have to fight, will make a huge difference in the outcome.

It hasn't.

Personally, and I hope boxer-in-training forgives me for this, I think this is a terrible idea. Wolfe said that she needs to fight a man because there's no other women for her to fight, and I can understand that, but this is just an awful idea.

The only way she beats him is if she wins by decision, boxing him and staying on the outside the whole fight, to which everyone will respond, "well that was boring!"

I totally agree with you! I think a woman has no place fighting a man. What is she trying to prove anyway? Sure they have the same record, arm reach, blah, blah, blah. But I doubt they have the same testosterone levels. :lol: Men just flat out hit harder than women. I only spar with men because that is all that is available, but I still think it is a bad idea to actually fight a man. I don't think it will help the public's perception of boxing.

I just think it will end up looking like some freak show.

Don't worry, you guys aren't being chauvenistic on this particular topic. I couldn't agree with you more.

I felt weird writing my reply, too.

Another interesting point is that men train and fight 3 minute rounds and women train and fight 2 minute rounds. That extra minute, whether it's an extra minute she has to fight or an extra minute that he doesn't have to fight, will make a huge difference in the outcome.

All I know is that she's STACKED and judging from their interviews she's much more determined.

I'm sure she's trained for this fight..and I don't know that Bo Skipper had much of a career and I'll bet he's going to make a BOATLOAD more money than he would have in any other fight even if he gets knocked out.

Athletes are athletes man, she's no pushover and neither is he...

I totally agree with you! I think a woman has no place fighting a man. What is she trying to prove anyway? Sure they have the same record, arm reach, blah, blah, blah. But I doubt they have the same testosterone levels. :lol: Men just flat out hit harder than women. I only spar with men because that is all that is available, but I still think it is a bad idea to actually fight a man. I don't think it will help the public's perception of boxing.

I just think it will end up looking like some freak show.

Don't worry, you guys aren't being chauvenistic on this particular topic. I couldn't agree with you more.
I really liked hearing your views on this one, thank you so much for replying! I appreciate it!

I agree with you and others. I really don't want to see this fight happen. But, for some reason, I kinda hope she beats his butt! :D

I totally agree with you! I think a woman has no place fighting a man. What is she trying to prove anyway? Sure they have the same record, arm reach, blah, blah, blah. But I doubt they have the same testosterone levels. :lol: Men just flat out hit harder than women. I only spar with men because that is all that is available, but I still think it is a bad idea to actually fight a man. I don't think it will help the public's perception of boxing.

I just think it will end up looking like some freak show.

Don't worry, you guys aren't being chauvenistic on this particular topic. I couldn't agree with you more.

I don't think she's trying to prove much beyond being a professional boxer. I don't think she has a day-job...She can't make money fighting women because according to her there are none left to fight.

As far as testosterone levels, if what you mean is that he'll have more muscle than her, so the fact that they're equal in every category doesn't count, I'll grant you that...but I've seen some women that were (to put it bluntly) frickin' HUGE, and she is definetly one of them. This woman is simply stacked. Also, there is more to boxing than how hard you hit someone.

I don't exactly like the idea because I too believe that it will be marketed as a "freak show" but thats the ONLY reason I don't like this idea. In my opinion there are plenty of women who could perform on par with men in many contact sports, this is just an issue of perception.
*Hitting* is off limits for a man to do to a woman under any circumstances, thus regardless of the forum its socially unacceptable...

We're all aware of the sad state of boxing these days..putting that aside...Heres what I want to know..do you think its a bad idea because you believe him to be inherently stronger and thus she'll get knocked out or badly injured? I think that sentiment is a

Boxer-In-Training, you should rephrase what you said to say that of two evenly matched individuals of opposite genders you believe the man would be the harder hitting of the two. Men don't inherently hit harder, and I can guarantee that you'd kick my ass! ;)

I hope the female boxer kicks the male boxers ass.

I don't think I could watch something like that.

It just seems... wrong.

We're all aware of the sad state of boxing these days..
Wha?? :confused: Your talking about the heavyweights. Boxing's better now than it's been in the last 15 years.

"Ann vs. Man" = bad idea

Wha?? :confused: Your talking about the heavyweights. Boxing's better now than it's been in the last 15 years.

"Ann vs. Man" = bad idea
Yeah, personally I've found boxing to be pretty good lately. I did like the "Holyfield Bowe Era," but there are some fun things happening right now. Castillo / Corrales (sp?) is REALLY exciting to me, and I can't wait for that fight. Their first bout a few months ago was absolutely incredible!! I also kinda enjoy watching the robots from the Ukraine, lol. They remind me of Dolph Lundgren! :D And Lacy is really, really fun to watch. That fight the other day was kinda crappy (I didn't think the ref was very fair to Reid personally, but I did want Lacy to win). HBO's Real Sports had a good story on Holyfield not too long ago, it's sad to see what's going on with him for sure. I really like Holyfield.

I've never boxed personally, but Boxing is by far my favorite sport to watch right now.

Men don't hit harder than women? there isn't a woman heavyweight boxer out there now or ever who could have gone against George Forman in his prime. In fact I think George could whup em all now. Ditto for Ali. But it seems to me these man/woman matches belong in the tents of Ringling Bros. They are freak shows designed to attract the Jerry Springer element among us. Of course if you shop around you'll find some out-of -condition guy who'll lose to a woman in excellent condition and no matter who wins there'll be cries of "foul" from both camps. Maybe we'll get a woman president but i don't think we're gonna see an undisputed heavyweight champ as a woman at all if ever.

There isn't a woman heavyweight boxer out there now or ever who could have gone against George Forman in his prime.
Ha, and there isn't a woman fighter that weighs 300+ pounds either. And I don't think I really want to see one either...

Ann Wolfe said pretty publicly that she doesn't really even want this fight. It's her only option at the moment to make money since Leila Ali hasn't been able to come to terms for a match. This thing is even going on PPV, so there's a big payday in it for her, probably bigger than if she fought Ali straight up.

This pretty much sums it up, a press quote from her about the fight...

"With all due respect to Bo Skipper, that should be Leila Ali. This has nothing to do with fighting a man. It means I still have fight in me. If this is what I have to do (fighting a man), then so be it. But that should be Leila Ali." - Ann Wolfe

I don't think she's trying to prove much beyond being a professional boxer. I don't think she has a day-job...She can't make money fighting women because according to her there are none left to fight.

As far as testosterone levels, if what you mean is that he'll have more muscle than her, so the fact that they're equal in every category doesn't count, I'll grant you that...but I've seen some women that were (to put it bluntly) frickin' HUGE, and she is definetly one of them. This woman is simply stacked. Also, there is more to boxing than how hard you hit someone.

I don't exactly like the idea because I too believe that it will be marketed as a "freak show" but thats the ONLY reason I don't like this idea. In my opinion there are plenty of women who could perform on par with men in many contact sports, this is just an issue of perception.
*Hitting* is off limits for a man to do to a woman under any circumstances, thus regardless of the forum its socially unacceptable...

We're all aware of the sad state of boxing these days..putting that aside...Heres what I want to know..do you think its a bad idea because you believe him to be inherently stronger and thus she'll get knocked out or badly injured? I think that sentiment is a

Boxer-In-Training, you should rephrase what you said to say that of two evenly matched individuals of opposite genders you believe the man would be the harder hitting of the two. Men don't inherently hit harder, and I can guarantee that you'd kick my ass! ;)

How a boxer "looks" has nothing to do with skill. Boxers come in all shapes and sizes. Just because someone is "ripped" and "stacked" doesn't necessarily give them an edge over someone else. They are of equal skill, but Bo Skipper HAS more testosterone, which would reult in a little more power and speed, not just "big muscles". There are SOO many elements that go into boxing. Speed, power, anaerobic conditioning, endurance, skills, mental fortitude - just to name a few. It is such a complex sport and you are right in the fact that it is more than how hard someone hits. Hit and not be hit, Kill or be killed. That is the name of the game. If she wins, that would be great but I just see it also as a Jerry Springer freak show. I think it will hurt women's boxing, rather than help it. I think that is my main concern overall. Call me old-fashioned.

Sorry to go a bit OT but just interested - how well known is Ricky Hatton in the US?

Coz he's a bit special :)

Sorry to go a bit OT but just interested - how well known is Ricky Hatton in the US?

Coz he's a bit special :)
Very well known I believe. I've seen him fight a number of times. I'd like to see him fight over here though, has he ever fought in the US?

He ain't bad at all, that's for sure. I am not a huge fan, but he is good and he seems like a nice guy (just from the post-fight interviews I've seen on Showtime/HBO).

How a boxer "looks" has nothing to do with skill. Boxers come in all shapes and sizes. Just because someone is "ripped" and "stacked" doesn't necessarily give them an edge over someone else. They are of equal skill, but Bo Skipper HAS more testosterone, which would reult in a little more power and speed, not just "big muscles". There are SOO many elements that go into boxing. Speed, power, anaerobic conditioning, endurance, skills, mental fortitude - just to name a few. It is such a complex sport and you are right in the fact that it is more than how hard someone hits. Hit and not be hit, Kill or be killed. That is the name of the game. If she wins, that would be great but I just see it also as a Jerry Springer freak show. I think it will hurt women's boxing, rather than help it. I think that is my main concern overall. Call me old-fashioned.
Then call me old fashioned too, cause I agree with you. At least I hope it doesn't hurt the sport anyway. We'll see, I guess...

Sorry to go a bit OT but just interested - how well known is Ricky Hatton in the US?

Coz he's a bit special :)
I've been watching Hatton for the last 5 years or so, ever since Showtime started carrying him. At first, I thought he was incredible, just powering through whatever stood in front of him. Then I thought that he would never make it much higher than Ben Tackie after their fight. I was floored when he got the fight with Tszyu and though he'd never see round two. Amazingly, Hatton won me over a second time with the style that he used to beat Tszyu. He fought a very intelligent fight, something I didn't think he had the experience to do.

Now he's going to fight Floyd Mayweather... right now, there's no one in the states that can even come close to touching Mayweather as far as boxing finesse and skill, the problem is the guy's a real dick. If Hatton can beat him, which I don't think he can, he will have won me over a third time and would probably touch legendary status in my book. I'll be cheering for Hatton to pull that off, now let's see if he can actually do it.

Yeah, personally I've found boxing to be pretty good lately.
I didn't know you watched boxing, cool! Yeah, Castillo / Corrales was amazing and they're going to be doing a rematch not too far off. So many of the lighter divisions, especially the Jr. lightweight and Jr. welterweight divisions, are so stacked it's incredible.

BTW, check out Friday Night Fights on Friday nights (duh) on ESPN2. The three guys that make up that show (Teddy Atlas, Brian Kenny and Joe Tessitore) give such great commentary, they really do a super job of analyzing the chess match going on in the ring.