View Full Version : Interesting article on obesity


Sheepish
Wed, March 3rd, 2004, 03:52 PM
Hey guys 'n' gals, I've just come across a great article (http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1111/1798_300/60102141/p3/article.jhtml?term=) on obesity. I'm :read: it now! I guess all those hours randomly reading Google Answers (http://answers.google.com/answers/) is starting to pay off.. :D

guava
Wed, March 3rd, 2004, 05:16 PM
That would be page 2 you linked to.
Try Page 1 (http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1111/1798_300/60102141/p1/article.jhtml?term=)

I forgot all about Google Answers. I used to spend hours reading there too. :tu:

Sheepish
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 01:29 AM
Yeah, d'oh. Starting at page 1 might have been a better idea ;) While reading that article, one thought remained foremost in my mind... how come I've never been asked to supersize?! :D

I remember I used to go in to MaccyD with my friends (all of us manual workers), and we'd get about six burgers each, eat them, then have to run back inside for a few more before we left. I've been dieting that long, I'm not sure if I remember that fondly or with disgust....

:: kna ::
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 02:40 AM
Maybe McDonalds in the UK read that, they're phasing out Supersize (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_880764.html?menu=news.latestheadlines)

I must admit whilst I'm still on the occasional McDonalds train, I've gone from a Double Quarterpounder With Cheese and SuperSize fries to a McChicken Sandwich and Small Fries.. and I don't really even enjoy that these days.

guava
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 05:49 AM
Yep, when the burgers were 59 cents, my husband would go in with his two buddies and order 30 of them.

I kinda liked when they brought in the supersize meal. Now, instead of two Big Mac Meals, we just order a Big Mac Meal supersize, and a cheeseburger.

If he's not in a sharing mood, he doesn't supersize, and I get a fatwise muffin and a water with my cheeseburger.

Jingo
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 07:21 AM
i love (loved?) McD fries :( i'd often go there and just get a couple of super size fries, nothing else. Never liked the smaller burgers but the 1/4lb with cheese was good, actually tasted like meat hehe.

Anyone have stats handy for their fries? at work so can't go visiting tons of random sites.

Bunko
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 07:32 AM
Maybe McDonalds in the UK read that, they're phasing out Supersize (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_880764.html?menu=news.latestheadlines)


Not just the UK, they are apparently getting rid of it even in the US:
http://us.cnn.com/2004/US/03/02/mcdonalds.supersize.ap/

guava
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 08:20 AM
Anyone have stats handy for their fries? at work so can't go visiting tons of random sites.

http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/junkfoods/mcdonald-nutrition-fries.html

small fry 210 cal 10g fat
value 320 cal 16 g fat
medium 450 cal 22 g fat
large 540 cal 26 g fat

http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.item.6054.html

supersize 610 cal 29 g fat

The Apple Bran Muffin has 180 calories and 0.5 g of fat, but I used to always order the Fatwise Cranberry that I can't find stats for.

Jingo
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 09:38 AM
supersize 610 cal 29 g fat

jeez! lol

I used to go grab 2 super size fries as a snack... i've never been a big coke drinker and their burgers aren't that great so i'd just get the fries, i also told myself they wre healthier becuase it was only potato fat and a little salt...

riiight lol

3 super sized fries = my daily intake now in cals

2 = my fat intake for 4 days

mikey
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 10:05 AM
I went to Mc D's last night and got the grilled chicken cob salad and a water. not bad but I could have done with out the bacon bits! any way thats the first time I have went there since before thanksgiving holiday and that time I ordered a chicken something with fries and diet coke. I remember I couldn't eat half the fries the greasy taste started making me feel ill. I haven't eaten any french fries any where since that. I never ordered a super size in my life and I am glad they are not selling it much longer as it has promoted being over weight. And they sold super size to you like you were getting a great deal when realy the cost for them to super size is almost nothing more but you pay for the great deal with your health.

Since I have worked at Pizza Hut I know how fast food places work. they force the employess to always suggest extra items or upgrades to build sales and profit. most of the time they don't care if what they sell is not healthy for the consumer. I had trouble selling that meat lovers pizza special we had. I thought how can I push something I would never eat.

any way they looked at me in a strange way last nite when I ask for the water. the girl was trying to push coke cause I guess the make more money on that than bottled water.

yoyomahh
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 02:14 PM
It amazes me, how we (the consuming public) are so quick to blame the food industry (not only fast food) for the super sized obesity epidemic. North Americans have to take more personal responsibitly for themselves.

PS - I have'nt been in a MC D's (or any FF joint) in 18 months. My gut thanks me.

:: kna ::
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 02:31 PM
North Americans have to take more personal responsibitly for themselves. Cool, that means us British don't have to and can blame McDonalds for being fat! ;)

Just kidding, however you're absolutely right. Phasing out the supersize is obviously only going to affect those without the willpower to have smaller options, or preferably avoid going in there at all.

InShape_Oval
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 03:47 PM
when im at subway i always stare at the napkin that lists mcds/burger king vs some of subways "healthy" subs..

it still blows me away to this day
whopper : 590 cals (i forget the fat), but tahts With Out cheese, doesnt the whopper come with 1-2 slices as well...


/shiver

wolfhalen
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 04:43 PM
It amazes me, how we (the consuming public) are so quick to blame the food industry (not only fast food) for the super sized obesity epidemic. North Americans have to take more personal responsibitly for themselves.

PS - I have'nt been in a MC D's (or any FF joint) in 18 months. My gut thanks me.

Yep!

Last time I checked running down the street and going to the park to exercise was free..

Also eating fast food is VERY EXPENSIVE! When I used to do that, I would spend $10 a day on lunch, hell my dry tuna sandwiches and water for a week hardly cost that much.

That article was mostly liberal diatribe as far as I'm concerned, it's their pattern to deny responsibility of the individual, and place it on the corporations, or the government.

TFXP-Zeke01
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 04:44 PM
It amazes me, how we (the consuming public) are so quick to blame the food industry (not only fast food) for the super sized obesity epidemic. North Americans have to take more personal responsibitly for themselves.

PS - I have'nt been in a MC D's (or any FF joint) in 18 months. My gut thanks me.

Yes, we N.Americans do!:D Not only take responsibility for the "super sized obesity epidemic", but take responsibility for "fast food" PERIOD!! I hear all to often, from my own father for whom I work, that he would like to loose weight and stop eating McDonalds which is a block from our place of business. My dad is too old fashioned, a work-a-holic if you will, to make and take his own healthy food to work and eat like I do. I take a break and eat every 2 hours whether I'm busy or not. Luckily, I can do that, but UNFORTUNATELY some people can't because of their RIDICULOUSLY HECTIC work enviroment. The fast food industry is making gazillions of dollars from Americans that are either too stubborn or too freakin' lazy to take 10 minutes out of a hectic schedule to eat every couple hours--the way they should eat. Yet, as I said above, the ones that can take the time to eat healthy just don't take advantage. I know because I used to be one of those Americans who would stop in at Wendy's or McDonalds and get a value meal and slap it down on the way to work or wherever I was going just because I was pressed for time, and/or didn't cook and bring my own healthy food. The fast food industry for the most part is responsible for not offering all healthy items on the menu and do away with fat/greasy hamburgers, etc.. But, that wouldn't be the American way now would it? :rolleyes: At least few took the notion to go healthy for the most part....ie. Subway!:)

Fudgam
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 06:07 PM
It amazes me, how we (the consuming public) are so quick to blame the food industry (not only fast food) for the super sized obesity epidemic. North Americans have to take more personal responsibitly for themselves.

PS - I have'nt been in a MC D's (or any FF joint) in 18 months. My gut thanks me.

Indeed :nod:

Kinda like the smoking thing. "Tobacco companies are to blame, my little boy/girl has started smoking. Its all because of their campaigns to corrupt the youth" Whatever. I, the individual, decided to smoke. Commercials and/or magazine ads did not force a cig to my mouth and make me smoke it.

Jim
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 06:55 PM
At one point I was eating Mc Donalds about 4 times a week with my friends. I eventually stopped and I've grown to hate the place, It's disgusting. When I eat Fast Food I keep it lower and don't go overboard, last time I've ate from Burger king was about 3 weeks ago, and it was a handfull of my mates Fries, since he didn't want them. I had about 1/3 of a medium carton and couldn't take no more. Very greasy.

I prefere Subway for fast food during the day, It's healthier than Mc Donalds, but I'm sure it's not great either with the fatty ham and cheese and bacon and whatever else they put in some sandwhiches.
If I eat fast food it's as a cheat meal once a week or something.

Chris
Thu, March 4th, 2004, 07:29 PM
That article makes a very interesting point in that "portion control" was taught at a very young age and stuck over the long haul.

With all of the current lawsuits against fast food companies, specifically McDonalds, it really makes me sick that a lot of parents blame fast food for making their kids fat.

I've never believed the argument that "violence in the media" was cause for crime, so I certainly don't believe that fast food is the cause for obesity, in my opinion, these same people blaming McDonalds for poor health choices should stop trying to point fingers and take a long hard look in the mirror, because that's where the problem lays.