View Full Version : So Confused.. about cutting and bulking ahh
aqua11230 Wed, July 27th, 2005, 11:38 AM Hey guys!
I have been hooked on this website for the past week and you guys are just great! I just have a question/problem that I'm still confused about..
I am 19 5' 8 and 155lbs and a 34 in waist.
I am just confused about the whole cutting and bulking deal. I looked at many posts about this questing but still don't quite understand everything. My question is what should I do first. I don't have access to a gym until the end of next month and right now I am just doing tae bo for an hour everynight and eating about 1000 calories.
I think I should loose weight first but don't know at what weight I should stop and start bulking?
well I hope you guys understand my question and thanks again!!!
karatetricker Wed, July 27th, 2005, 11:42 AM Eat nearly double what you are now.
Bluestreak Wed, July 27th, 2005, 11:43 AM Start here (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=1222)
Once you've read, digested, and applied this information to you and your goals, come back and ask us your questions. And eat more. Paris Hilton probably eat more than that in a day.
-R
Pr0phecy Wed, July 27th, 2005, 11:47 AM It's up to you whether you want to cut or bulk first.
Either way, however, you need to be eating more. Around 1500-1600 if you're cutting. A lot more if you're bulking.
Chameleon Wed, July 27th, 2005, 11:49 AM It's up to you whether you want to cut or bulk first.
Either way, however, you need to be eating more. Around 1500-1600 if you're cutting. A lot more if you're bulking.
actually... I'd say even more than that... I'm 5'2.5" and around 140lbs and I eat 1500-1600 calories while cutting... he needs to be eating a LOT more than he is
karatetricker Wed, July 27th, 2005, 11:51 AM actually... I'd say even more than that... I'm 5'2.5" and around 140lbs and I eat 1500-1600 calories while cutting... he needs to be eating a LOT more than he is
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JeremyLikness Wed, July 27th, 2005, 11:52 AM Well, maybe. I weigh 200 and I also eat 1600 calories when cutting, so we all have different metabolisms.
Really, he should be eating what allows him to consistently lose 1 - 2 pounds of fat per week without losing strength, and that could be anything based on a number of parameters.
Jeremy
actually... I'd say even more than that... I'm 5'2.5" and around 140lbs and I eat 1500-1600 calories while cutting... he needs to be eating a LOT more than he is
aqua11230 Wed, July 27th, 2005, 11:59 AM Well, maybe. I weigh 200 and I also eat 1600 calories when cutting, so we all have different metabolisms.
Really, he should be eating what allows him to consistently lose 1 - 2 pounds of fat per week without losing strength, and that could be anything based on a number of parameters.
Jeremy
THANKS for the quick replys! Just wondering.. How do I loose fat and not muscle. I will eat more now since you guys said so and I do eat very healthy but is there anything I can do to make sure I will loose fat and not muscle..?
thanks ;-)
Chameleon Wed, July 27th, 2005, 12:07 PM THANKS for the quick replys! Just wondering.. How do I loose fat and not muscle. I will eat more now since you guys said so and I do eat very healthy but is there anything I can do to make sure I will loose fat and not muscle..?
thanks ;-)
without more information... like a detailed list of what and how much you eat... we can't help you man... read the sticky at the top of this section about diets and try to figure out a diet YOU think is right and post it here too... then we can help you refine it
aqua11230 Wed, July 27th, 2005, 12:30 PM without more information... like a detailed list of what and how much you eat... we can't help you man... read the sticky at the top of this section about diets and try to figure out a diet YOU think is right and post it here too... then we can help you refine it
Well for the last week this is what my diet basically looked like..
Morning (8 a.m)
cereal (usually honey bunches of oats) with 1% milk -- 200 cal
or bowl of fruit such as cantolope/strawberries/watermelon
Lunch (12 30 p.m)
A 6 inch sub from subway on wheat bread with veggies -- 300 cal
or a garden salad with low fat italian dressing -- 200 cal
and I usually have some fruit in between this
Dinner( 8 p.m)
Omlet with 1 egg and 2 eggwhites -- 100 cal
or a sandwich on wheat bread with veggies and hummus -- 200 cal
and I have my 8+ glasses of water a day
Looking at this.. I can see how this really isn't enough calories for my body and would really like some help on what I can include and the amount of calories I can eat for each of the 6 meals I should be having. BTW I am a vegeterian.
thanks
inurb Wed, July 27th, 2005, 12:37 PM Aqua I was confused too when I started. I didn't know which one to do, cut or bulk. So I kept sabotaging my goals every time I would get leaner I would say "oh man I need to bulk", and when I would get bigger I would do the same thing and say "damn I need to lean out". This was a stupid cycle that basically made me go nowhere fast.
What I found out that works best for me is to pick one. Either cut or bulk and do it for a prolonged period of time, like three months. Then you can decide if you need to switch your goals around. Otherwise you are running in place imo.
rtestes Wed, July 27th, 2005, 01:29 PM How do I loose fat and not muscle. I will eat more now since you guys said so and I do eat very healthy but is there anything I can do to make sure I will loose fat and not muscle..?
Start an effective weight training program, if you are cutting or bulking. Make it a lifetime habit, a positive addiction.
Start with a completely documented program that provides the answers and is written down for reference. HIT, Max-OT, HST, Body for Life and even some of the men's health books are prime examples.
jonnycashman Wed, July 27th, 2005, 01:53 PM BTW I am a vegeterian.
Seriously man, read the stickies, they will help. Also, try a search for vegeterian threads as there are more then a few on this board. From looking at your diet here are a few basic guidelines you need to incorporate into your fitness plan.
1) eat 5-6 small meals spaced throughout the day
2) eat lean protein with each meal
3) get most of your carbs from veggies/fruit
4) eat as many whole, unprocessed foods as possible
5) lift weights!!!!!
BTW - #5 is the most important.
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