Hello all!

I've just picked up my weekly 'Us' magazine and would like to share with you all how Lindsay Lohan has gone from somewhere in the 140's lbs to a super slim, svelte (doesn't appear to be any muscle) 112 pounds or so. I think she's 5'6''. This is day one of her diet strategy which she has said is her new way of "eating healthier". The diet was designed by her trainer Justin Gelband;

Breakfast-2/3 eggwhites and veggies and one banana

Lunch-3 slices of turkey, chicken or ham with lettuce and tomato

Snack-2 hard boiled whites OR one apple

Dinner-Salmon Fillet cooked with one tsp olive oil and one cup of vegetables

Snack-One frozen fruit bar

What do you think? I think no wonder she has continued to lose weight! I would say this diet has about 700-800 calories in it. Correct me if I'm wrong but this is not something you should consider your new healthy way of eating for life right?

Hello all!

I've just picked up my weekly 'Us' magazine and would like to share with you all how Lindsay Lohan has gone from somewhere in the 140's lbs to a super slim, svelte (doesn't appear to be any muscle) 112 pounds or so. I think she's 5'6''. This is day one of her diet strategy which she has said is her new way of "eating healthier". The diet was designed by her trainer Justin Gelband;

Breakfast-2/3 eggwhites and veggies and one banana

Lunch-3 slices of turkey, chicken or ham with lettuce and tomato

Snack-2 hard boiled whites OR one apple

Dinner-Salmon Fillet cooked with one tsp olive oil and one cup of vegetables

Snack-One frozen fruit bar

What do you think? I think no wonder she has continued to lose weight! I would say this diet has about 700-800 calories in it. Correct me if I'm wrong but this is not something you should consider your new healthy way of eating for life right?

Wow. No wonder she's a toothpick now. Is she working out also? I agree, that has to be less than 1000 calories a day, and the snacks are practically nonexistant if you try to consider them equal meals.

I think she looks disgusting and needs to start eating normally. She was smokin somewhere in the middle of her weight loss.

http://www.goodplasticsurgery.com/archives/lohan_bikini_comparison2.jpg

She looked way better before, to me.

Sounds like my diet when I had a 120 fever, broncitis, ear infection, sore throat and a tough flu. The calorie amount anyway (I felt sorry for myself...and I couldn't swollow).

I don't get it. She had a really hot body before. It's kind of funny how she claims to eat healthy. And five times a day. Well she does, both of them, but...

I could never have done it. I'd be dreaming about food in my then blurry and foggy day dreams.

Now Nicole too, she got a body of a 9-10 year old.

The only reports I've heard of Lindsay Lohan are that she is too skinny. At 5'6" and 112 pounds, that does sound too skinny. In the photos I've seen, I haven't noticed any muscle either. Her lean mass must be exceptionally low and she's at risk for osteoperosis and other problems. Her ideal weight should be about 130 pounds for her height. I don't know why her trainer, nutritionist, or doctor doesn't tell her this.

She may be eating healthier foods than she used to, but she's not eating enough of them to maintain her vitality and energy, and to fend off disease. In my best guess, she's going to burn out pretty quickly from exhaustion, or suffer serious health problems, or she'll break down and balloon up to larger than she ever was before. I feel sorry for her thinking that she has to be thin to be successful. She was beautiful before, and now she is not.

guava -- agreed 100%.

Too sad. She used to be really gorgeous. Now she just isn't.

How many calories in ... well, nevermind.

Here's the website for her "trainer". And note that I put trainer in quotes because anyone who had a clue wouldn't have designed a diet like this. The site has it phone number and e-mail address. Feel free to let him know.

http://www.5starfitpros.com/justinpage.htm

Before/After...
maybe she's going to bulk?
maybe she looked at this "before photo" and was discusted?
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

Here is why - because her "after" image conforms to what pop media and the general public (posters here not part of that group) projects as desirable, sexy and successful. As long as people keep buying it in the movies, mags fashion etc - THIS is what we women get compared too - an ideal that only a small genetically freakish portion (or very starved portion) of society can attain.

I am really kinda shocked the "Air-brush Artists Union" hasn't kidnapped and started force feeding - at the rate she is going she is going to put some of those guys out of a job!

Her biggest mistake was going blond - now she is just another blond toothpick in a sea of blond toothpicks on Rodeo Drive.

PS - www.feedlindsey.com

BJ

I think alot of the reason is too "look" older and loose some of the baby fat to grow out of the kid roles that made her famous. Its prolly just going to end up breaking her.

That is NOT a desirable look imo. You'd think her parents would talk some sense into her or something.

Quick, somebody! Form an outfit called People for the Ethical Treatment of Humans! Sue Ms. Lohan's "handlers" - or better yet, get them locked-up...and see how much they like living in lock-up on her diet!

-Martin

It was recently reported that she collapsed halfway through a spinning class, actually (so she has burnt out). If I were her trainer, I'd be in fear of my reputation for suggesting such a diet.

IMDB has her listed at 5'7", and if she's 112 lbs... yech. I know BMI isn't very accurate for us more muscular types, but it's probably more applicable to her type of build (as in, no build). Those stats would put her at a BMI of 17.5.

I am really kinda shocked the "Air-brush Artists Union" hasn't kidnapped and started force feeding - at the rate she is going she is going to put some of those guys out of a job!

PS - www.feedlindsey.com

OMG they sort have already started:
*****WARNING THIS PICTURE IS DISGUSTING*****
http://users.nehp.net/marbles/lindsay/pics/lindsayafter.jpg

OMG they sort have already started:
*****WARNING THIS PICTURE IS DISGUSTING*****
http://users.nehp.net/marbles/lindsay/pics/lindsayafter.jpg

Wow. :d_eek:

OMG they sort have already started:
*****WARNING THIS PICTURE IS DISGUSTING*****
http://users.nehp.net/marbles/lindsay/pics/lindsayafter.jpg


Well, shit. Maybe, just maybe, she or someone close to her will run across that pic, and start realizing that, while the pic is fake, if she continues her behavior it may someday be an accurate depiction.

I don't care about LL herself all that much, but what I do care about is the fact that many young women aspire to be like her and the Mary-Kate/Ashleys of the world. I read somewhere (may have been here, not sure) that there are internet forums of girls/women who are dedicated to the "ideal" of anorexia. :rolleyes:

Anyway, LL did you notice LL has lots of freckles all over? Before her crappy diet, they made her look playful yet sexy. Now it looks like she has sores all over.

Well, Lindsay's had a rough year. Been working like crazy. Collapsed from exhaustion. Parents divorced. Dad arrested. I think some other shit. I thought her dramatic weight loss might have stemmed from a lot of those personal problems. But if it's true that that trainer actually put her on that diet, it's appalling. I usually wouldn't give a shit and would just shake my head. But I might actually shoot that guy an e-mail once I get back from DC for the weekend. Horrible. The sadder thing is that the body is probably a real one of some anorexic.

OMG they sort have already started:
*****WARNING THIS PICTURE IS DISGUSTING*****
http://users.nehp.net/marbles/lindsay/pics/lindsayafter.jpg


AHHHHHH the magic of photoshop!!!! :rolleyes:

Glamor Shots should branch out and do "Cover Model" Shots - dress one of us regular hard-working figure challenged peeps in a swimsuit and give us the business they give the stars. People would be lined up down the street!

BJ

I had heard about those forums, so i googled, and sure enough, they're out there. Sad thing is is that you can tell from their posts that they are products of some severe emotional trauma and pressure. And it seems, just from a cursory look, that a lot of it has nothing to do with the media's depiction of women, but of other factors (e.g. overbearing parents, obsessive boyfriends, sexual issues), and also some very personal stubborn teen angst.

However, those forums (i had to join one to read the posts) are eerily similar to this one (we all do, in some sort of way, have eating issues, and are looking to recompose our bodies), with before and after pictures, eating tips, etc. They even have ways of trying to do it in a "healthy way" by taking supplements, vitamins, etc. It's too bad we can't just ship all those girls to this forum and tell them that a little muscle (and a few cheeseburgers) will make them look amazing.



I don't care about LL herself all that much, but what I do care about is the fact that many young women aspire to be like her and the Mary-Kate/Ashleys of the world. I read somewhere (may have been here, not sure) that there are internet forums of girls/women who are dedicated to the "ideal" of anorexia. :rolleyes:

Did anyone see her skit on Saturday Night Live awhile back when she portrayed Hermione from Harry Potter where she "blossomed" over the summer? I don't know of anyone who didn't think she looked superb there.

Did anyone see her skit on Saturday Night Live awhile back when she portrayed Hermione from Harry Potter where she "blossomed" over the summer? I don't know of anyone who didn't think she looked superb there.
Here it is:
http://www.milkandcookies.com/article/2441/

Or direct link to QT:
http://www.liquidgeneration.com/blog/video/snl_potter.mov

Google is good. :)

Sounds like my diet when I had a 120 fever, broncitis, ear infection, sore throat and a tough flu. The calorie amount anyway (I felt sorry for myself...and I couldn't swollow).

I don't get it. She had a really hot body before. It's kind of funny how she claims to eat healthy. And five times a day. Well she does, both of them, but...

I could never have done it. I'd be dreaming about food in my then blurry and foggy day dreams.

Now Nicole too, she got a body of a 9-10 year old.

Nicole Richie looks terrible in that pic. She looked a lot better when she was "fatter".

Yeah, I don't understand it. I know that many women equate "thinner" with "more attractive", and so they try to maintain an ultrathin look. I had a co-worker who was 5 feet 9 inches tall, and weighed about 145. She looked GOOD...I mean, I was a bit distracted at work :D

Then, she decides "I'm fat" and proceeds to lose 25 pounds. So, now, she is 5 feet 9 inches tall, and weighs 119, and looks unhealthy, frail, weak, and nowhere near as attractive as she was previously. Funny thing is, she STILL thinks she is too fat! http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/crazy.gif

I don't get it, but I guess that is what happens when arbitrary standards of attractiveness are pitted against maintaining an overall healthy lifestyle.

Yeah, I don't understand it. I know that many women equate "thinner" with "more attractive", and so they try to maintain an ultrathin look. I had a co-worker who was 5 feet 9 inches tall, and weighed about 145. She looked GOOD...I mean, I was a bit distracted at work :D

Then, she decides "I'm fat" and proceeds to lose 25 pounds. So, now, she is 5 feet 9 inches tall, and weighs 119, and looks unhealthy, frail, weak, and nowhere near as attractive as she was previously. Funny thing is, she STILL thinks she is too fat! http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/crazy.gif

I don't get it, but I guess that is what happens when arbitrary standards of attractiveness are pitted against maintaining an overall healthy lifestyle.

It's more pervasive than you can imagine. I've had a number of friends or co-workers with serious problems (e.g., bulimia, anorexia), and there are a lot of seemingly "normal" people around on crystal meth because it keeps them skeletal. My own exprience in junior high when I nearly wasted away over several months because of a metabolic condition scared me a lot and I am sure is a major reason I prefer the athletic look on women (at my peak I had about 20 lbs more lean body mass than my entire weight as a near-death skeleton). I recall a lot of females complimenting me on my "weight loss" after I got out of the hospital, having lost most of my muscle and body fat. Creepy! :d_eek:

I think this must have been shot a while back becasue she certainly isn't that endowed in the chest anymore-either that, or they did a stuffing, push up and tape job! :nod:


Did anyone see her skit on Saturday Night Live awhile back when she portrayed Hermione from Harry Potter where she "blossomed" over the summer? I don't know of anyone who didn't think she looked superb there.

I think this must have been shot a while back becasue she certainly isn't that endowed in the chest anymore-either that, or they did a stuffing, push up and tape job! :nod:
It was shot a while ago. I can't remember if it was right before the Harry Potter 3 or 2 movie came out, but even if it was right before Harry Potter 3 hit the movies that was a while ago.

I am very curious as to the authenticity of the diet. Has anyone thought about emailing him and asking him to participate in the discussion. Perhaps he said "eat more eggwhites" and she said to the interviewer the diet she was on was "influenced by him" and the media printed "he designed the diet"

Wilders

I am very curious as to the authenticity of the diet. Has anyone thought about emailing him and asking him to participate in the discussion. Perhaps he said "eat more eggwhites" and she said to the interviewer the diet she was on was "influenced by him" and the media printed "he designed the diet"

Wilders

That's very true. He could have given her some direction or designed her a diet, and she took matters into her own hands and 'improved' upon it.

it is so sad to think that so many girls will read that article and follow her diet in hopes of losing as much weight as she has.

and yea, i've seen those ED forums and livejournals too and it breaks my heart to think that there are women out there who believe this is the "ideal" body image.

Well I saw her on the view and she discussed her weight.....she said partly it was because of an upcoming role...and because she got sick. I bet shes stressed out as hell too....while I know some peoples views are skewed and they aim for a body like that...I think she might be aware she was a little sexier before....cause right now, not hot! lol

Very very sad. I love curves. :cool:

Ive emailed the guy and asked him to check out this thread. I doubt he will respond. :rolleyes:

I know she's smaller than me, but seriously I'd slash my wrists eating that little. It's got to be terribly unsatisfying.

I heard a joke today:
Answer: Ralph Lauren
Question: What's lindsay lohan's diet advice to a girl named Lauren?

Very very sad. I love curves. :cool:

Ive emailed the guy and asked him to check out this thread. I doubt he will respond. :rolleyes:

I think I'll e-mail him soon too. Not in relation to this thread. Just to tell him that Lindsay looks horrible, and is it his fault and what has he had her doing?

Im just not entirly convinced that he had her on that diet.

Ok there are a lot of cowboys out there, but, come on. Surley there is more to this then meets the eye. :confused:

Im just not entirly convinced that he had her on that diet.

Ok there are a lot of cowboys out there, but, come on. Surley there is more to this then meets the eye. :confused:

She may have a major psychological disorder and be in denial about it. Who knows what she is actually eating, how much she is exercising, if she is purging, etc? I agree that it's unlikely a professional would have advised her to do what it is reported she is doing.

Come on, together we can make a difference: http://www.feedlindsay.com/ :lol:

I agree with Abby. While you all can poke fun at the sites that are out there it is a scary reality that women, especially the young ones, get the message that thin is super hot-especially super thin with breast implants. I don't think it's going to change until men start damaging their bodies to look a certain way or until the men's magazines out there start glorifying real looking women. It is very sad that as a society we have become so shallow and our concept of beauty has narrowed so much.

We can't all look the same and we shouldn't all try to. It is one thing to look your personal best, but quite another to look someone else's surgically/anorexically/bulimically enhanced best.

I agree, whatever the latest fad or chic thing happens to be some people go overboard on. The real issue is these women need help because if this decade's fad is anorexia, the next one may be something even worse for them. The thing that sticks out in my mind about the magazines are that most guys don't want to look at these pics of anorexics, as evidenced by the comments here. Fashion magazines are the real culprit in my mind, and women are doing anything possible to fit into these girlie clothes and look cute.


I don't think it's going to change until men start damaging their bodies to look a certain way or until the men's magazines out there start glorifying real looking women. It is very sad that as a society we have become so shallow and our concept of beauty has narrowed so much.

Unfortunately, I also mean cosmetic surgery which, in the long run, is no good either. I know most mens magazines show a whole lot of that!

You all think guys don't get pressured and damage their bodies as well? I'm not saying it's as bad for young boys, but it is there. I'd say that a teenager whose natural testosterone levels, testicle size, cholesterol, etc. are getting destroyed by steroids, because he wants to become the next hero on the field or on the court, or cause he wants to look good for women, sure as heck is damaging his body pretty badly.

Again, I know it's not as bad for guys as it is for gals, but it is still there!

Did you all know that Chris Janusz (SwoleCat) used to be anorexic?

You all think guys don't get pressured and damage their bodies as well? I'm not saying it's as bad for young boys, but it is there. I'd say that a teenager whose natural testosterone levels, testicle size, cholesterol, etc. are getting destroyed by steroids, because he wants to become the next hero on the field or on the court, or cause he wants to look good for women, sure as heck is damaging his body pretty badly.

Again, I know it's not as bad for guys as it is for gals, but it is still there!

Did you all know that Chris Janusz (SwoleCat) used to be anorexic?

Agreed. I was talking to my little brother today and his friends today (he's in h.s.) -- they all know guys on sterroids and they all are concerned that they are "too small". It reminded me of my female friends when I was a teenager... obsessing about their bodies... although thankfully they all agreed that steroids were a bad idea. I've heard of h.s. age guys getting calf implants or other surgeries and even when I was in college plastic surgery for women seemed the norm. Anyways, we talked with the guys about eating good foods, sleeping, and getting lots of exercise (and patience!) as the best way to grow bigger and be healthy. Sad they have so much pressure on them, too, though. And I don't think it makes them think of women's health and beauty any differently.

edit: another thing that really irks me is women's fitness magazines. Almost none of the models have any muscle and they are holding 5 lb weights at most. It's ridiculous that they won't hire models with a little real muscle, instead of women who likely don't work out and appear to have eating disorders. I don't mean that they are too low body fat, just that they have no muscle :mad:

I agree about fitness magazines. I also know that guys have a lot of pressure on them as well-still not as bad as females-but it is there. I recently saw an ad targeted toward men that was just as manipulative as any ads geared toward women in terms of "Wouldn't your life be so much better if____" and "You would me much more attractive if your _____ were larger". It is sad. We have become too focused on our outsides. I hope there is a backlash soon!

I agree with Abby. While you all can poke fun at the sites that are out there it is a scary reality that women, especially the young ones, get the message that thin is super hot-especially super thin with breast implants. I don't think it's going to change until men start damaging their bodies to look a certain way or until the men's magazines out there start glorifying real looking women. It is very sad that as a society we have become so shallow and our concept of beauty has narrowed so much.

We can't all look the same and we shouldn't all try to. It is one thing to look your personal best, but quite another to look someone else's surgically/anorexically/bulimically enhanced best.

Well-I agree with you. But I don't think the whole onus should be placed on men. I think there's a lot of pressure on women from women to subscribe to a cookie cutter standard of beauty. And a lot of the images I see in my girlfriend's 'womens' magazines are just as unrealistic as those in Maxim. Just because the women aren't decked out in bikinis and high heels for a 6-page photo shoot doesn't make it less so.

I agree about fitness magazines. I also know that guys have a lot of pressure on them as well-still not as bad as females-but it is there. I recently saw an ad targeted toward men that was just as manipulative as any ads geared toward women in terms of "Wouldn't your life be so much better if____" and "You would me much more attractive if your _____ were larger". It is sad. We have become too focused on our outsides. I hope there is a backlash soon!

Agreed. I think there already is to an extent. There may be more pressure on men to look a certain way. But I think the situation for women is actually a little better than it has been. Lindsay Lohan, Nicole Richie and the like aside, the standards of beauty in Hollywood are wider than the used to be. One must not be a stick-figure. There's more gorgeous curvy women now than ever (Beyonce, J. Lo, etc...) and more fit women with some muscle than ever (Jennier Garner, Jessica Biels, etc...). me like!

Well-I agree with you. But I don't think the whole onus should be placed on men. I think there's a lot of pressure on women from women to subscribe to a cookie cutter standard of beauty. And a lot of the images I see in my girlfriend's 'womens' magazines are just as unrealistic as those in Maxim. Just because the women aren't decked out in bikinis and high heels for a 6-page photo shoot doesn't make it less so.
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Thanks. I'm remembering back to health class in college. Usually, I just zoned out. But this one study during the Eating Disorders unit struck me. I might have the details slightly off, but the general idea is right. The researchers presented girls with 10 different drawings of women, each progresively fatter. 1 was a stick figure. 10 was extremely obese. They asked the women to assign a number to a. what the average young woman was, b. what would be most attractive to men, and c. what they themselves wanted to be. The results of the mean responses of the girls:

Most girls thought the average young woman was a 4. They thought that a 3 would be most attractive to men. BUT they wanted to be a 2.

I agree about fitness magazines. I also know that guys have a lot of pressure on them as well-still not as bad as females-but it is there. I recently saw an ad targeted toward men that was just as manipulative as any ads geared toward women in terms of "Wouldn't your life be so much better if____" and "You would me much more attractive if your _____ were larger". It is sad. We have become too focused on our outsides. I hope there is a backlash soon!

Ya I read the Men's too. Steroid-esque males selling this or that. The thing about the women's fitness models is that they look very similar to the fashion models. Maybe they were just too short for the runway but they still have stick limbs. I don't feel pressure to look like them, I just don't think they belong it a fitness magazine demonstrating a weight routine :lol:

Ya I read the Men's too. Steroid-esque males selling this or that. The thing about the women's fitness models is that they look very similar to the fashion models. Maybe they were just too short for the runway but they still have stick limbs. I don't feel pressure to look like them, I just don't think they belong it a fitness magazine demonstrating a weight routine :lol:
Those are good points folks! I see that a lot too. Olive Oil is holding 3 pound pink dumbbells, she's skinny-fat and they airbrushed the cellulite off of her stick-legs but they show her in a way to suggest that she's some type of icon of health and fitness.

Argh!

Olive Oil is holding 3 pound pink dumbbells...

Is that a person's name??? :d_confuse

Is that a person's name??? :d_confuse

Popeye's girlfriend. Extremely skinny. Olive-oil arms is a common insult.

An Olive Oyl page for you Gila!

http://www.popeye-n-olive.com/olive.html

An Olive Oyl page for you Gila!

http://www.popeye-n-olive.com/olive.html
Man she's so hot. :lol:

Yes I am frustrated by fitness magazines too. There is also an unbelievable pressure on women who compete in fitness to get surgery of some sort. It makes me feel like giving up and eating donuts!

Olive Oil...

OK, I get it now... :lol:

D'oh! :p

Kinda funny because when I googled it it gave me results of extra virgin olive oil. And a picture or two of popeye..

An updated picture of Lindsay:

http://www.q102.com/kasper/images/lindsay_skinny.jpg

:d_eek:

Somebody throw her some food!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What could she be thinking? What is wrong with our society that our heroes are . . . [fill in the blank]?

She looks MUCH better at 140 or whatever it was. Maybe its for attention. It does work has you can see.

Picture from '04: hot.
Picture from '05: NOT.

Who cares what she does. She wants to be anorexic? To quote the great George Carlin, "Rich <offensive expletive deleted> don't wanna eat? Fuck 'em..."

-R

FYI... the deleted expletive = "See you next Tuesday".

This is a really excellent thread. Heartbreaking but this needs to be discussed, not ignored. Kudos to you all.

So here ya go kids, another facet of the problem. Not all is of it is actresses and models who starve themselves thin - there is also the client's who pay for the image and the artists who deliver.

This was as illuminating as it was horrifying to me. Just mouse over the images to see what I mean: Greg's Digital Archive (http://homepage.mac.com/gapodaca/digital/bikini/index.html).

I originally found this through Krista's (http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html) site. That is also where I learned about just how much trickery goes into the image of the average fitness model, too.

And I think within a certain segment of the population the pressure is on men just as hardcore as for women. I live very close to San Francisco. There are a LOT of “model perfect” men in this area. Some of them go through all seven layers of hell to get that way, too. :d_frown:

Actually-she may very well be on cocaine-she and Nicole Ritchie hang out together and both are emaciated now.

I read that it's because of a movie she is going to be in called "Fashionistas" about models, but I guess I don't understand why the casting directors wouldn't just want one of the many already scrawny blonde actresses out there. If it weren't a movie about models, I would chalk it up to being an acting challenge, but there are also lots of models who would like to act.

She was so pretty at a normal weight. :d_frown: Not to mention that it was very refreshing and inspirational to see a healthy-looking young woman celebrity.

The sad thing that you all have already mentioned but I just feel that I have to get in here and say something is that guys as well as women are now getting pressure from magazines, movie stars, etc. who all have good looking bodies. They want to "measure up" to those they see because they think that it attracts the opposite sex. So they then go about getting those bodies by unsafe methods(i.e. steroids, starvation, etc.). There are a few guys at my school who are nuts about those kind of things. It's one of those things that you don't believe until you see it.

Bulimic and anorexic guys who are taking steroids just so they feel they can measure up to the "hunks" they see in magazines. The thing is that they influence those beneath them. The younger kids beneath them will see them and try to imitate their behavior.

That's why I get a smile on my face when I work out at school with my friend who is a dedicated lifter and knows what he is doing. Because he can then be an example to the freshmen and middle schoolers beneath him of where hard work can take you.

It sounds hokey but we need to try and direct more people to websites like this that offer support and guidance so that they can achieve their goals without the high price of drugs or starvation, and so they can feel the satisfaction and pride that comes from looking in the mirror at your new self and realizing that your hard work and determination got you there.

Sorry if this seems rather convoluted but I feel strongly about this issue

The sad thing that you all have already mentioned but I just feel that I have to get in here and say something is that guys as well as women are now getting pressure from magazines, movie stars, etc. who all have good looking bodies. They want to "measure up" to those they see because they think that it attracts the opposite sex. So they then go about getting those bodies by unsafe methods(i.e. steroids, starvation, etc.). There are a few guys at my school who are nuts about those kind of things. It's one of those things that you don't believe until you see it.

Bulimic and anorexic guys who are taking steroids just so they feel they can measure up to the "hunks" they see in magazines. The thing is that they influence those beneath them. The younger kids beneath them will see them and try to imitate their behavior.

That's why I get a smile on my face when I work out at school with my friend who is a dedicated lifter and knows what he is doing. Because he can then be an example to the freshmen and middle schoolers beneath him of where hard work can take you.

It sounds hokey but we need to try and direct more people to websites like this that offer support and guidance so that they can achieve their goals without the high price of drugs or starvation, and so they can feel the satisfaction and pride that comes from looking in the mirror at your new self and realizing that your hard work and determination got you there.

Sorry if this seems rather convoluted but I feel strongly about this issue

I agree with Xander. Times are changing. Modern society praises the muscle toned hunk look. I'll take a picture of a general group of guys round their 20s here in Rhodes, Greece. I think you'll be shocked. Latest hairstyles, tight clothing, shaved body & legs etc. Looking good is important but some even use creams every day, do their hair every week.....And the latest craze? Make-up. That's right, in a recent magazine that I read it suggested lipstick to show your lips more. COMMON!Men's health and other magazines are stock full of clothes, style, exercises,diets and "how to please her" articles. Every issue they have a new ab exercise routine.....Anyway, point is that yes, women are going overboard with plastic surgery, fad diets etc but incidentally so are men.

An updated picture of Lindsay:

http://www.q102.com/kasper/images/lindsay_skinny.jpg

:d_eek:

Somebody throw her some food!!!!!!!!!!!!!

easy...she might just fall over and hit her head.

i wouldn't be surprised if a wind gust picked her up and dumped her into the ocean. then again, she'd probably just float.

--i know i'm a little late on the thread, but i wanted to give my 2 cents. i agree with what everyone else said, so i'm not going to rehash what was already said. but, i find it amazing how just a year ago, the "in" look was a muscle toned woman. every hollywood celebrity had a nice set of abs and great arms. now, everyone looks disgusting.

granted the pressure to have muscle is still pressure, but atleast the idea of what was "in" and "hot" back then didn't amount to looking sickly.

i was on a similar diet to the one you described way back when i didn't know about nutrition, but i didn't lose any more weight after the first 2 weeks. I was eating a few slices of turkey for breakfast, then a few more for lunch, some pickles (and other zero cal thing) throughout the day, turkey breast for dinner, and green tea before sleep. After those first 2 weeks, why do u think i stopped losing weight? I cant figure that one out.

easy...she might just fall over and hit her head.

i wouldn't be surprised if a wind gust picked her up and dumped her into the ocean. then again, she'd probably just float.

--i know i'm a little late on the thread, but i wanted to give my 2 cents. i agree with what everyone else said, so i'm not going to rehash what was already said. but, i find it amazing how just a year ago, the "in" look was a muscle toned woman. every hollywood celebrity had a nice set of abs and great arms. now, everyone looks disgusting.

granted the pressure to have muscle is still pressure, but atleast the idea of what was "in" and "hot" back then didn't amount to looking sickly.

I think there are competing 'in' looks. There are still a lot of gorgeous, curvy or toned and fit women in Hollywood for every Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Richie. Fortunately.

i was on a similar diet to the one you described way back when i didn't know about nutrition, but i didn't lose any more weight after the first 2 weeks. I was eating a few slices of turkey for breakfast, then a few more for lunch, some pickles (and other zero cal thing) throughout the day, turkey breast for dinner, and green tea before sleep. After those first 2 weeks, why do u think i stopped losing weight? I cant figure that one out.

Serious? Or is this sarcasm?

Check this out:

Scarlett: Not Skinny Enough (http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/hotgossipb5)

Hopefully not another soon-to-be Lindsay Lohan. Scarlett looks great with curves and I hope she stays like that.

~Shole

She was hot but now looks nasty.

Serious? Or is this sarcasm?


serious. i am on a much better diet now, but when i started that diet i had also started taking adderall (prescribed, though, dont worry). That pretty much supressed my appetite so it wasnt hard.

so why did i stop losing weight with such a huge caloric deficit?

serious. i am on a much better diet now, but when i started that diet i had also started taking adderall (prescribed, though, dont worry). That pretty much supressed my appetite so it wasnt hard.

so why did i stop losing weight with such a huge caloric deficit?

Because your metabolism had completely shut down. The body has a remarkable sense of self-preservation and will significantly slow your metabolism down if it perceives that food is really scarce. If you had kept at it long enough, you would have ultimately lost some more fat but also a significant amount of muscle. Just like Lindsay did.

Well, here's one curvaceous lady who's not gonna get anorectic any time soon ;)

http://entertainment.msn.com/photos/gallery.aspx?photo=521853&gallery=8764#photos

Well, here's one curvaceous lady who's not gonna get anorectic any time soon ;)

http://entertainment.msn.com/photos/gallery.aspx?photo=521853&gallery=8764#photos

I predict a 20 lb weight loss over the course of 1 day in her future. Talk about crash diets! Very worrisome... :lol:

Reading this thread I had to think about a psychological test they once took. Men were asked what they thought a woman would want a man to look like. Women were asked what they thought a man would want a woman to look like. Then men and women were asked what they wanted the opposite sex to look like.
Result: men thought they had to be a lot bigger (muscular) than women actually liked, and women thought they had to be a lot thinner than men actually liked.
Lesson learnt: if you're working out to find a mate, don't go overboard.

I love women with a bit of fat on 'em, of course, preferably in the right spots, but if that means some more fat on other spots, whatever. ;)

Hmph! :mad: I read this thread very late and you guys and gals have been discussing about this topic for quite time already. Anyway, just want to post some of my opinions; First of all I agree with what most of you guys/gals have said, I myself prefer the "before" Lisdsey Lohan picture. I mean, IMO that should be the "in" fashion and body figure for the average female teens. It's just so damn wrong if they want to make the "after" picture as the "ideal" teen's image. Again, she's too thin and it's kindda disgusting to me. I have a friend with a body just like the "after" picture, and some people are afraid just to touch her, because they're afraid they might break her!

Reading this thread I had to think about a psychological test they once took. Men were asked what they thought a woman would want a man to look like. Women were asked what they thought a man would want a woman to look like. Then men and women were asked what they wanted the opposite sex to look like.
Result: men thought they had to be a lot bigger (muscular) than women actually liked, and women thought they had to be a lot thinner than men actually liked.
Lesson learnt: if you're working out to find a mate, don't go overboard.

I love women with a bit of fat on 'em, of course, preferably in the right spots, but if that means some more fat on other spots, whatever. ;)

I personally think most men look best with about 12-15% body fat. Fortunately, there are many different types of "hot" males bodies, some skinnier and some with more bulk :spaz:

Hmph! :mad: I read this thread very late and you guys and gals have been discussing about this topic for quite time already. Anyway, just want to post some of my opinions; First of all I agree with what most of you guys/gals have said, I myself prefer the "before" Lisdsey Lohan picture. I mean, IMO that should be the "in" fashion and body figure for the average female teens. It's just so damn wrong if they want to make the "after" picture as the "ideal" teen's image. Again, she's too thin and it's kindda disgusting to me. I have a friend with a body just like the "after" picture, and some people are afraid just to touch her, because they're afraid they might break her!

Definitely agree about Lindsay's body. However I don't think anyone would term that ideal even the Hollywood culture. If they did, she wouldn't be on the cover of every pop culture magazine with headlines like, "Linday, eating disorder?" Lindsay, drug problems?"

I personally think most men look best with about 12-15% body fat. Fortunately, there are many different types of "hot" males bodies, some skinnier and some with more bulk :spaz:

I've noticed that since I'm working out (and bulking) I've gotten so much compliments that I'm almost afraid to reduce my fat levels! I think I'm around the 15% these days, maybe even more, which is quite a lot for my metabolism and semi-vegan diet. ;)

I've noticed that since I'm working out (and bulking) I've gotten so much compliments that I'm almost afraid to reduce my fat levels! I think I'm around the 15% these days, maybe even more, which is quite a lot for my metabolism and semi-vegan diet. ;)

:drool: :p

I heard a joke today:
Answer: Ralph Lauren
Question: What's lindsay lohan's diet advice to a girl named Lauren?


I don;t get the joke.... :p :o

Can someone explain? I tried the way it sounds, etc. Is it that she is recommending that LAuren look like a boy (i.e. no curves)? :confused:

I don;t get the joke.... :p :o

Can someone explain? I tried the way it sounds, etc. Is it that she is recommending that LAuren look like a boy (i.e. no curves)? :confused:

They are using the word Ralph as a slag term for vomit (derived from the noise a person makes while puking).

My new desktop background... that's hot.

My new desktop background... that's hot.

Paris doesnt look too healthy to me either ;)
When she was asked if she works out to stay in shape she's like "noo" (like duh, of course not!)

Looks like she is really looking for publicity with that ad.....and burger industry must be getting slower or something (maybe after the movie Supersize Me).
There is a lot of more healthy options then burgers

.....and burger industry must be getting slower or something (maybe after the movie Supersize Me).
There is a lot of more healthy options then burgers

If you really want to stop a craving for burgers...watch Super Size Me, then read Fast Food Nation....Blech!!!

I have noticed on Fit Day that my diet has had a major drop of hamburger, poultry and beef....I just can't help remembering what they feed those animals and how they are slaughtered :eek: ! I am in no way a vegetarian....but it definitely made me rethink a lot of the foods I buy and consume.

I personally think most men look best with about 12-15% body fat. Fortunately, there are many different types of "hot" males bodies, some skinnier and some with more bulk
Agree! Especially the 'not to big' bodytype. Ok, hell! I'm referring to myself, I'm pretty thin (160 at 6'1) even after a bulk, but the added bodyfat sure makes me look better (according to some people) and if I were to compare myself to teen's TV personality, I would say "I kindda look like them. :d_biggrin IMO, a very low level of bodyfat would look great with people who has a lot of muscle mass, again, it's just my opinion...
Definitely agree about Lindsay's body. However I don't think anyone would term that ideal even the Hollywood culture. If they did, she wouldn't be on the cover of every pop culture magazine with headlines like, "Linday, eating disorder?" Lindsay, drug problems?"
I'm not a big reader of TV personalities, in fact I only about her after picture from JSF. The only image I knew about Lindsey was from some TV series where she still looks healthy and if I'm not mistaken, she made a film about a racing car. Sorry but I can't remember the title. Anyway, I'm just so glad that they aren't making it the ideal body for teen, whew! :nod:

I dunno thirtysomething. 15% for a guy? That's kinda fat. If you have sufficient muscle, you should look great leaner. I do think people that don't have much muscle look better a little fleshier. Those that are too lean with too little muscle just look sickly.

Well Proportioned I think is the most attractive option for either sex. Nice tone muscles with a little bit of fat. I personally find major bodybuilders a little frightening and disturbing. (Sorry if that offends anyone here.) Same for the women ones. Just well proportioned. My two cents worth.

I dunno thirtysomething. 15% for a guy? That's kinda fat. If you have sufficient muscle, you should look great leaner. I do think people that don't have much muscle look better a little fleshier. Those that are too lean with too little muscle just look sickly.

If it's evenly distributed, I think 12-15% looks fine on most men. There is definitely a point at which a man moves from really hot to "too lean" from a sexual attractiveness perspective. Of course it depends on the specific build and where fat is stored and there are some guys that do look better leaner. Not sure if other women share that preference but I would assume men have even more of a preference for a certain threshold of fat on a woman.

I think there are many attractive body types (including smaller, shorter guys and bigger ones of any height). Usually, the ones I admire most appear to be close to a natural body type for that individual, but they are fit because of some physcial labor or activity they pursue. So maybe some guys naturally store a little more fat and it looks better on them. Going sub-10 _can_ look great, but I hate to see young men obsessing over it and feeling like losers if they can't ... when they might look just as good, or better, several percentages higher. :confused:

maybe some guys naturally store a little more fat and it looks better on them. Going sub-10 _can_ look great, but I hate to see young men obsessing over it and feeling like losers if they can't ... when they might look just as good, or better, several percentages higher. :confused:

I agree. My girlfriend doesn't like me best super lean. We started dating when I was running and playing soccer competitively. I was around 5%. She's also been with me when I was chubby-a 30 lb weight gain from probably about 8% after a semester abroad. The only time in my life I've been chubby. She likes me best around 9-10%, whatever the musculature. For me that's fairly normal and about what my body settles into when not purposely bulking. For some people, I realize that might be too lean. It kills me to see teenagers going on sub-2000 calorie diets to get into the single digits. To me, it's not that much different than teenage girls aspiring to be a size 2. Or for that matter, to look like the 'new and improved' (express sarcasm) Lindsay Lohan.

This is a strange post to me...I really don't know who Lindsey Lohan is...I sorta thought she had something to do with like American Idol or something, but it seems like she's an actress...In the words of grandpa simpson: "I used to be with it and then they changed what *it* was..." I feel really old at 22 not having a clue who this chick is...I'd heard the name before but thats about it...

Meanwhile, who cares what she weighs or what she eats? That diet you described didn't sound so bad to me, because it doesn't tell you A) portion size or B) # of kcals in each meal...lets look a little closer, shall we?

Breakfast-2/3 eggwhites and veggies and one banana
Lunch-3 slices of turkey, chicken or ham with lettuce and tomato
Snack-2 hard boiled whites OR one apple
Dinner-Salmon Fillet cooked with one tsp olive oil and one cup of vegetables
Snack-One frozen fruit bar

Everyone seemed to jump on the "Thats unhealthy and terrible and her nutritionist should be hanged" bandwagon...but at 130lbs or thereabouts anything about 1300 kcals is probably ok... so 2/3 of a cup of egg whites and a banana is what like 150kcals along with who knows what veggies and how much, so far so good...lunch 3 slices of turkey w/ lettuce and tomato, ok but on what kind of bread and what constitutes a slice? It coudl be that each slice is 75 kcals or it could be 40...for the hell of it lets say they're 50kcals a slice, thats 150kcals from lean protein along with bread thats probably 100kcals+ per slice..so her sandwhich is probably somewhere around 300calories...so far it sounds good to me...a snack of a piece of fruit or some lean protein sound ok to me, its not really high in calories but the nutrition is certainly there...also this doesn't say how often she is snacking etc. and dinner is a salmon fillet of a size which is not listed but lets say 8oz and 1tbspn of EVOO and veggies according to nutritiondata.com thats about 300+ kcals for the fish and approx 100kcals for the oil along with maybe 50kcals for veggies (once again depending on which ones)...then a frozen fruit bar? who knows..that could easily be 200-300 kcals...

Cut to the chase:
Breakfast=150
Lunch=350
Dinner=450
Snacks=300-400
Total= 1300+kcals...

Wow! So she's eating enough kcals to maintain a weight of 130 as a 5'6" female, she's broken her meals in to small portions throughout the day, and shes eating a well balanced nutrient rich foods! THAT BITCH!! I bet she exercises too!!

All of you are suckers for the paparazzi...they take pictures that make these women look 10 times slimmer than they are and airbrush the hell out of them for their US and People magazine shots, and all of a sudden everyone gets flustered and has to slam this girl and make comments about her being anorexic? Maybe if I had a camera on me 24/7 there would be bad pictures too...

I don't get it...I have no clue how she looks aside from the pix shown in this thread, but did any of you consider that she might look like she does due to her genes or perhaps that when she was heavier she wasn't in good shape at all and now that she's gotten in shape her body has changed due to a natural and healthy progression? NO! All I heard from any of you was that she was anorexic, needed food thrown at her, was going to have osteoperosis, was probably on coke, etc. etc. etc.

You all seem overly willing to chastize this girl for the way she eats, but actually she promoted living a healthy lifestyle regardless of how she looks! Would you rather have had her say "Yeah, I basically just eat what I want and who cares..." or "Oh, I don't really eat anything I just starve myself..." :mad: At least she's using her celebrity to show girls out there what a healthy diet and lifestyle looks like...shit, if someone would have posted a sample diet that looked like that in another thread you would all praise them for eating good wholesome foods in smaller quanities over the course of the whole day along with eating kcals 10X-12X body weight (an approximation that worked very very well for me)!!!

Did you ever stop to think that its possible to look skinny AND be healthy? Why can someone only be one or the other? (This is a lot like Bill Maher's O.J. is guilty AND the cops are corrupt..is it so hard to wrap your head around 2 things at once?) I'm really disappointed in all of you. Haven't you learned yet that every person is different in how their body reacts and what their level of health might be? I have no idea what her personal health history is, nor what her ideal healthy weight might be AND NEITHER DO ANY OF YOU!!!! Jeez...a 5 page post and I'm the only one that sees this? Man, I really have been away from these boards far too long....

Disclaimer on my previous post: Before I get dogged by people saying "..but the media is promoting skinny as sexy.." Thats not what my post was meant to entail at all. I think the recent popular media has done a great disservice to the world by portraying women the way they do but in this case the diet she suggested was not one that should have been criticized and that was the nature of this thread. This was not a thread to discuss the portrayal of women in the media it was a thread to discuss the diet that Lindsey Lohan mentioned in a magazine.

/soapbox off

Lemonsong, granted no one here probably knows Lindsay Lohan or what's going on in her life. HOWEVERL:

1. Lindsay is not 5'6, 130. By her own admission, she has dropped to 106.

2. Lindsay looks like a skeleton-it ain't all lighting and trick photography. The camera can't fake that.

3. You most likely have added up her diet wrong. There is no mention of bread. There's no reason to assume it given her appearance when it's not mentioned. I highly doubt a 200-300 calorie frozen fruit bar. The salmon fillet is likely not 8 ounces.

4. Assuming everything you did about that diet, it still only tops out at 1300 calories. 1300 calories is not enough for most sedentary indiviuals much less those who are training. It is poor on nutrition (not enough healthy fat or fruits and veggies) as well as being low calorie. Who know's what Lindsay's actually eating. But that sample diet, taken at face value, is much closer to 800 than 1300.

5. Linday was hospitilzed at 18 for exhaustion. Certainly this is self could've caused poor dietary habits rather than the other way around. But more likely, her poor eating habits and work schedule and partying were what led to it.

6. You don't know who Lindsay Lohan is? She's one of the most bankable and formerly bangable 18-year olds in America.

If you knew who she was and had observed her progress from slightly chunky to gorgeous somewhere along the way to damn near anorexic, you might feel differently.

Disclaimer on my previous post: Before I get dogged by people saying "..but the media is promoting skinny as sexy.." Thats not what my post was meant to entail at all. I think the recent popular media has done a great disservice to the world by portraying women the way they do but in this case the diet she suggested was not one that should have been criticized and that was the nature of this thread. This was not a thread to discuss the portrayal of women in the media it was a thread to discuss the diet that Lindsey Lohan mentioned in a magazine.

/soapbox off

Very true. But I think the thread quite legitimately criticized her supposed diet. If it was just a random diet divorced from Lindsay Lohan and her transformed apperance, I would consider it a poor diet. And that's giving it the fullest benefit of the doubt in terms of portions and 'nonexistant' bread.

Very true. But I think the thread quite legitimately criticized her supposed diet. If it was just a random diet divorced from Lindsay Lohan and her transformed apperance, I would consider it a poor diet. And that's giving it the fullest benefit of the doubt in terms of portions and 'nonexistant' bread.

Ok, as for the numbered list...yah I dunno about 106 or whatever but I'm sure there are perfectly healthy women who weigh 106 maybe not Lindsey Lohan but ok I'll recant on that account. The initial post mentioned her being about 130.

As for her diet...you could potentially say that its too low cal certainly (thats all dependant on who its for and various other factors), but I think getting fats from salmon and olive oil are good...theres no mention of bread, but you didn't think that was implied? Very few people eat slices of meat w/ lettuce and tomato and no bread...
I don't know what kind of fruit bar it is etc. etc. etc. but the point is that NONE of us do!!!

I think that what she was eating (while the portions are too small) was a good example of a basic effective nutrient rich diet. All lean proteins, lots of veggies, good Omega-3 fats, small portions spread out over the course of the day...aside from saying its too small, do you really have a problem with what she ate and how she went about eating what she did?

I'm planning to just count kcals and not count nutrients, so what? So you think she's not getting enough fat? Thats your biggest complaint? I mean, I've read lots of these b.s. celeb diets, and thats one of the better ones I've seen...its not "Well I just eat leeks" or "I'm doin' this variation of Atkins where I gorge on sugar for 2 hours a week but then stay away from all carbs including fruits and veggies the rest of the week.." Lets face it, there are LOTS of worse diets I've seen out there than that one.

I dunno, perhaps I was harsh on all of you...but aside from portions it just seemed to me everyone went WAAAY overboard! Someone said they were going to send an e-mail to her nutritionist...thats overboard...seriously, who cares that much? I know it was sarcastic,b ut still... She's some worthless Hollywood 15min. of fame actress or singer or whatever that no one will remember in a year...so who cares what she eats? Just my $0.02. I wouldn't even have read this thread if it didn't have 5 pages of posts...I thought there'd be better discussion than just dissing on her and skinny women in general.

People want to place the blame on the media all the time, but look how much all of us have had to say about this girl's magazine interview..its just perpetuating all that we're against...so lets stop the nonesense cuz whoever this chick is her diet probably isn't worth this much discussion and ours probably are :)

I would rather consider the way she looks. Aside from the diet itself, I think she look terrible. Proper nutrition's purpose should be to give you a healthy and well nourished body, while from the way I look at her, she doesn't look to good to me. :( I;d prefer the old Lindsey look (if I'm not mistaken she played in a movie "Agent Cody Bank" correct?) she look a lot healthier back then. Now I'm just curious, why the heck did she transform her body this way? IMO, it's just to attract the public to increase her popularity, I know some actor/actresse does. What do you think?

I would rather consider the way she looks. Aside from the diet itself, I think she look terrible. Proper nutrition's purpose should be to give you a healthy and well nourished body, while from the way I look at her, she doesn't look to good to me. :( I;d prefer the old Lindsey look (if I'm not mistaken she played in a movie "Agent Cody Bank" correct?) she look a lot healthier back then. Now I'm just curious, why the heck did she transform her body this way? IMO, it's just to attract the public to increase her popularity, I know some actor/actresse does. What do you think?


I honestly don't know and I hope that this is only something for a movie role instead of some decision she made about her looks. If it's the latter than she is in trouble and someone needs to set her straight.

I honestly don't know and I hope that this is only something for a movie role instead of some decision she made about her looks. If it's the latter than she is in trouble and someone needs to set her straight.

But see that is just it - she most likely DID have someone in Hollywood tell her she was "too fat" and she would land better/more roles if she dropped X amount of weight.

LL could care LESS if she is promoting a healthy lifestyle and so could the tabloids since they are attributing her change in appearance to anorexia, drugs etc. South Beach (which is what her menu reminds me of) and training by Ms. Olympia don't sell those rags like drugs, misery, freakdom and scandal do. Anyone who believes anything printed in tabloids really needs to re-evaluate themselves anyway. They are just another tool to part the consumer from their cash.

I could care less what LL does myself and it prolly would not hurt her to add a few pounds back. When you think about what the poster that itemized her diet for us - it doesn't seem as unreasonable as it did at first glance - we do not know what her "goal" is if she is just trying to get thin (granted it is skinny fat and not healthy for HER) - maybe that was a low calorie day or something.

Thinking objectively for a minute - if someone who didn't know much or anything about fitness and nutrition were to review what one of us did in an average week and what we ate - what kind of comments would you get? I have been called everything from crazy to obsessed to shallow - and those were the nice comments!

Not trying to slam or discredit anyone's opinion - just like to make people think.

BJ

PS If there had been bread involved in that lunch - the word "sandwich" would be in there somewhere.

you guys do realize that tabloids also said "titanic baby found still crying for its mother"? no one except lindsay lohan knows what goes into her mouth and whoooooo caaaaares. maybe she'll die. maybe she'll gain 50 pounds. the point is she is skinny. so are a lot of famous people. how do they get that way and maintain it? who knows. sorry if this seems rude but just because she's famous everyone is like OH MY GOD ANOREXIA. a lot of people have it. frankly, all these stars jumping on the anorexia band wagon is getting a little old.

p.s.- to prove how misinformed tabloids are, i read one saying that she is 5 foot 5 and 102 pounds. finding out real celebrity stats is nearly impossible.

My new desktop background... that's hot.

Have you seen that commercial? I think Paris is just about one of the more repulsive females this planet may have... the bod may be smokin', but the grey matter counts as much if not more than the shell it travels in where women are concerned with me. The way they filmed her writhing in that commercial was just... sexy as hell. I have a hard time understanding why a billionairee heiress is doing a commercial for Hardee's, but hey... I know I'd be one of the more eccentric celebrities would that I had that kind of jack in the bank, too. The tabloids would have a field day with me...

-R

..... I think Paris is just about one of the more repulsive females this planet may have... the bod may be smokin', but the grey matter counts as much if not more than the shell it travels in.........

-R

Yup. She's as shallow as they come. Makes me thankful to be me.

People have a point when they say you can't believe the tabloids. Obviously. And also, to an extent, when they say "who cares?" What Lindsay Lohan does does not effect anyone here on a personal level. But I just think it's a shame when a beautiful young girl drops to an unhealthy weight and becomes less healthy and much less attractive in the process-whatever the reason behind the weight loss. I'd feel that way whether it was Lindsay Lohan or that hot girl from my high school Spanish class. Kinda like when you hear about someone's house burning down and them losing all their posessions (though that is obviously much worse). You don't know them and it doesn't affect you personnally. But it still sucks. What's more of shame is that there are probably thousands of girls in middle america who idolize and envy Lindsay and wish they could get that skinny too.

What's more of shame is that there are probably thousands of girls in middle america who idolize and envy Lindsay and wish they could get that skinny too.

I second that. :mad:

Lemon,

If you dont care, why post in the thread? Clearly the people posting here do care for whatever reason, they are quite welcome to discuss this and i think analysing any diet and its effect on the body is important, whether you agree with the diet or not. A lurker may well be reading round and learn a lot from this thread. You just dont know.

A sub 1000 calorie diet is a bad thing. Whether LL is on that diet or not, that isnt the issue here. Admittedly some posts have been on the personal and bitchy side. However, this thread has covered anorexia, media portrayal of celebs, celeb diets, camera trickery, proper nutrition, peoples idea of good body composition etc etc, all worthwhile issues and very relevant to this site, and also something which i find interesting. Hence why i posted in the thread.

I did actually email the coach she "used". I didnt slag him etc, i asked him if he wished to join this thread and put his 2 cents in, as i felt it would be interesting to see what his line was. I wouldnt say that was OTT.

Your disappointed in us ? I found your post to be preaching and patronising, especially the part about your being "away too long". Who made you my saviour?

Chill mate. Chill.

Have you seen that commercial? I think Paris is just about one of the more repulsive females this planet may have... the bod may be smokin', but the grey matter counts as much if not more than the shell it travels in where women are concerned with me. The way they filmed her writhing in that commercial was just... sexy as hell.

Yeah, I have seen the commercial a few times on my computer. In slow motion, with freeze frames, you name it. It's hot.

Paris is funny because I have seen pics of her where she looks smokin' hot, well proportioned and totally sexy, and others where she looks like Lindsay Lohan does now (keeping this on-thread), thin and bony, and kinda of repulsive in that "somebody feed me" kind of way.

Yeah, I have seen the commercial a few times on my computer. In slow motion, with freeze frames, you name it. It's hot.

Paris is funny because I have seen pics of her where she looks smokin' hot, well proportioned and totally sexy, and others where she looks like Lindsay Lohan does now (keeping this on-thread), thin and bony, and kinda of repulsive in that "somebody feed me" kind of way.

Paris is a funny one. She has sex appeal in a repulsive kind of way. She's really not very pretty and not very hot, and yet somehow she's sometimes extremely hot.

jsbrook- This may be the only time I'll ever disagree with you. The only way that Paris is hot is sort of like that feeling you get after a run on an extremely hot, humid summer day that makes you want to vomit.

I sure miss that old, curvy Lindsay Lohan of yesteryear.


Paris is a funny one. She has sex appeal in a repulsive kind of way. She's really not very pretty and not very hot, and yet somehow she's sometimes extremely hot.

jsbrook- This may be the only time I'll ever disagree with you. The only way that Paris is hot is sort of like that feeling you get after a run on an extremely hot, humid summer day that makes you want to vomit.

I sure miss that old, curvy Lindsay Lohan of yesteryear.

hehe. Fair enough. Good characterization.

For the record:

I eat cold cuts and lettuce and tomato WITHOUT bread all the time...its called a lettuce wrap.

I also eat frozen fruit bars and have tried 4-5 different kinds, none of them are over 120 cals

Who really cares about all of this though. It is too bad that LL is living this way, but so are millions of other people in the world...it would be more productive if we adressed this issue generally than as it applies specifically to one celebrity.

http://www.interule.com/lind/ll10mx6zk.jpg

http://www.interule.com/lind/ll10mx6zk.jpg
Eeeww!!!
No offense, but eeeww!!! :d_redface

Eeeww!!!
No offense, but eeeww!!! :d_redface


For all those that are AOL members - they had a segment you can access from the welcome window allowing you to rate stars transformations.....guess who was one of the featured stars??

Last I looked 67% of America at Large agreed with us - curvy LL better than skinny LL

BJ

I think I'm done. Burned out on talking about Lindsay and her diet and looking at her scrawny body :lol:

I think I'm done. Burned out on talking about Lindsay and her diet and looking at her scrawny body :lol:
Me too I guess, I'm having a diarrhea and they say diarrhea can lead to weight loss :lol: But seriously, no matter how much we talk about this subject, I don't think Lindsey will change her diet. But for the better, I just hope she wants to gain some weight :)

This lady ranks right up there with LL to me. Not that shes too skinny (you'll see what I mean) but this takes "hourglass figure" too far....

www.cathiejung.com/

The x-rays are scary.

Shannon

This lady ranks right up there with LL to me. Not that shes too skinny (you'll see what I mean) but this takes "hourglass figure" too far....

www.cathiejung.com/

The x-rays are scary.

Shannon

Yikes :eek: I've read about women having ribs removed to look slimmer, wonder if that's true...

I once found a site dedicated to evolution of beauty in various cultures - it was quite hideous and not for the faint of heart. Other than corsets, they were covering women's small feet in Japan, the oval heads in some African tribes and whatnot.
It was truly a freakshow!

I wonder why grotesque disproportions of body parts are considered beautiful at times...

:rolleyes:

This lady ranks right up there with LL to me. Not that shes too skinny (you'll see what I mean) but this takes "hourglass figure" too far....

www.cathiejung.com/

The x-rays are scary.

Shannon

OK... that's a half-hour of my life I won't be getting back. Thanks for the link. Interesting stuff.

Yikes :eek: I've read about women having ribs removed to look slimmer, wonder if that's true...

My understanding is that during the Victorian eram it was common to do something to the lower ribs to allow the waist to shrink more under a corset. I recall being told (by a Victorian scholar) that the ribs were removed, but I don't think surgery was really advanced enough to do that then. Maybe I misremember and the lower ribs were deliberately broken. However, the tight corsets were the major source of the common occurance of women fainting. As they could not breathe very well, small levels of excitement (emotional or otherwise) would cause them to "swoon." Only gave support to the idea that women were the "weaker" sex.

As a (titilating) sidenote..apparantly there were quite a few books published at the time and columns published in newspapers about the "joys of corset tying." During the Victorian era, women were often thought to have no or limited sexuality. Tying a corset involved another person in order to pull the strings tight enough. Turns out that women had learned to use corset tying as a form of sexual pleasure (strings would pass between the legs) but as woman were not supposed to have sexual feelings-it was never labeled as such. Women would write in letters detailing different ways they woul have their corsets tied that had "great effect".... :rolleyes:

I think I'm done. Burned out on talking about Lindsay and her diet and looking at her scrawny body :lol:

So I have noticed that this thread has in a matter of weeks surpassed every other thread in terms of the number of views of it in this forum since its inception. It used to be, until a few days ago, Fit Women Over 42 etc. (yours truly's thread) which took a few months to get up there.

I guess looking at and discussing LL's starving herself and looking unhealthy is much more interesting than viewing picutes of women who have made major transformations to get themselves healthy rather late in life. :eek: :confused:

Well time to eat my pre-workout meal :eat: :lol:

So I have noticed that this thread has in a matter of weeks surpassed every other thread in terms of the number of views of it in this forum since its inception. It used to be, until a few days ago, Fit Women Over 42 etc. (yours truly's thread) which took a few months to get up there.

I guess looking at and discussing LL's starving herself and looking unhealthy is much more interesting than viewing picutes of women who have made major transformations to get themselves healthy rather late in life. :eek: :confused:

Looking at the stats, the "Over 42" thread had approximately 8750 views in 29 weeks, or about 300 views per week.

The "Lindsay's Diet" thread had approximately 9000 views in 3 weeks, or about 3000 views per week.

The "Am I Too Skinny" thread had approximately 2000 views in 3 days, and would probably have hit 5000 views in a week had it not been closed.

From these numbers, I'd conclude that trying to draw information out of an allegedly anorexic woman who may be fabricating her whole story is more interesting than reading about the transformations of older women OR discussing the transformations of teen starlets.

I've got a few other things to comment on in this regard, but I think I'll send you a PM instead of changing the direction of this thread.

So I have noticed that this thread has in a matter of weeks surpassed every other thread in terms of the number of views of it in this forum since its inception. It used to be, until a few days ago, Fit Women Over 42 etc. (yours truly's thread) which took a few months to get up there.

The "Lindsay's Diet" thread had approximately 9000 views in 3 weeks, or about 3000 views per week.



Justitia and phillydude....

I just did a search on Yahoo for "Lindsay Lohan's Diet" (quotes included) and JSF came up #2 in the search....

Oh my....#3 on Google....

Shannon

Ok, ya'll want to criticize...but the fact is that the more you talk about it the more that magazines and TV are willing to talk about it... I barely know who this broad is, but either way...dont' complain about how women are portrayed in the media etc. if you're willing to write SEVEN!!!! Pages about her diet!!! WTF.

I'm sorry, but don't you think its at least a tad bit hypocritical to say "Oh, look how the media portrays women and their diets badly etc. etc. etc." and then spend SEVEN+ PAGES on a message board dedicated to some lame singer or actresses diet?!?!?!?!???!!?!?!

Lets stop the madness people...This chick is obviously unhealthy. The women who post here know that. The men who post here know it. Enough is enough!!

If you want to start a new post about women's portrayal in the media, thats cool with me (I won't bother posting there) but c'mon...don't complain about the media, cuz its not your cesspool America, its your MIRROR!!!!

This is not meant to be flagrant or directed toward anyone, but seriously. This post started innocently enough and has been taken WAAAAAAAAY out of hand...pictures that look anorexic (some real some obviously fake and completely illegitimate!), letters to people, mad criticism...etc. etc. etc.?!?!?!?!?

Seriously people...if you care this much about people w/ 15 min. of fame, then you need to reassess your priorities.

We as people of this forum know right from wrong. We know that her diet as posted, while it seemed ok at a certain weight, obviously isn't correct...so lets stop posting about B.S. celebs and start posting about how we can change ourselves for the better!!! If Linsey Lohin or some other singer wants to be unhealthy WHO CARES??!!? I can't believe that we, as legitimate posters of this forum, would spend this much time and energy talking about this girl, and other super skinny celebs, rather than focusing that energy on ourselves and others who might really need that attention!!!!!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! NO MORE LINDSEY LOHAN!!!!!!!! Let's work to help each other rather than some random "famous" person that nobody is going to care about 2 months from now!!!!!


(disclaimer: sorry if this offends anyone (I really am, no joke or sarcasm), I had decided not to post here anymore, but the more I see people posting and posting and posting the more it really makes me wonder...everyone here has made up thier mind already...if your'e going to make another "Thats gross" post, DONT!!! Enough is really enough. Once again, I apologize if this offends anyone in particular, or if you really care about Lindsey Lohin..but seriously...lets focus our attention toward matters that are more important (like ourselves!) than some random celeb!!!!! It just promotes more of this kind of negative behavior to legitimize it with our time and energy!)

Re: last two posts. People are fascinated with a) celebrities and b) people doing obscure things to their bodies. I know that "pros in the off season" thread in the media gallery is particularly interesting to me ;)

I'm sorry, but don't you think its at least a tad bit hypocritical to say "Oh, look how the media portrays women and their diets badly etc. etc. etc." and then spend SEVEN+ PAGES on a message board dedicated to some lame singer or actresses diet?!?!?!?!???!!?!?!

Uh..no. There is no connection between the two examples above that demonstrates any hypocrisy whatsoever. Hypocrisy is when you criticize others for doing something that you do -- like reviving a dying thread with a provocative post chasitizing other posters for keeping it alive.

The readers digest version of your post is essentially: "I don't like this topic, and thus, I want everyone to stop posting on it". There are 13 forums each containing scores of threads and hundreds of posts -- No one is forcing you to read this particular one. My advice is to simply ignore the thread if you dislike it and let people post as they see fit.

Also, calm down....sheez.

So I have noticed that this thread has in a matter of weeks surpassed every other thread in terms of the number of views of it in this forum since its inception. It used to be, until a few days ago, Fit Women Over 42 etc. (yours truly's thread) which took a few months to get up there.

I guess looking at and discussing LL's starving herself and looking unhealthy is much more interesting than viewing picutes of women who have made major transformations to get themselves healthy rather late in life. :eek: :confused:

Well time to eat my pre-workout meal :eat: :lol:

Actually Justitia, I think I might disagree with you a bit on your interpretation. This is a controversial topic, and so it generates lots of posts. People generally tend to look at threads with new posts in them, even if they don't find the thread terribly fascinating...so, in my mind, the best quantification of interest level isn't necessarily the absolute number of views/posts, but rather, the longetivity of the thread, AND the number of views per post.

As of this post, the LL thread has 123 posts and 9,030 views, giving a 73.14 view/post ratio.

Fit women thread has 70 posts and 8,789 views giving a 125.55 view/post ratio.

Thus, I conclude that people find the fit women thread more interesting :)

P.S. I read your reply in the workplace relations thread a little bit ago....very insightful and intelligent analysis of the gender dynamics in the workplace....It was quite enlightening. Thanks.

Lemonsong, I'm personally bored with this thread. However, I don't agree with you. There are lots of issues in this thread; the pressure on young American women to be thin, unrealistic standards of beauty, poor trainers, the function and nature of American media. Perhaps it could be argued that Lindsay Lohan's appearance, the media's portrayal of it, and the public's repsonse to it is a testament to our society and merits discusssion (as oppossed to selfishly solely discussing the training and diets of individuals on these forums).

Actually Justitia, I think I might disagree with you a bit on your interpretation. This is a controversial topic, and so it generates lots of posts.

Yeah, I know you're right...this is a serious topic and I too looked at the article on LL's diet in th eonly issue of US I ever bought (had to do with Jeniifer ANiston's revenge--now that's a really important topic-- :p )

People generally tend to look at threads with new posts in them, even if they don't find the thread terribly fascinating...so, in my mind, the best quantification of interest level isn't necessarily the absolute number of views/posts, but rather, the longetivity of the thread, AND the number of views per post.

As of this post, the LL thread has 123 posts and 9,030 views, giving a 73.14 view/post ratio.

Fit women thread has 70 posts and 8,789 views giving a 125.55 view/post ratio.

Thus, I conclude that people find the fit women thread more interesting :)

Thanks for making my day!!! :D :tu: :cool: (not that this is a competition or anything... :rolleyes: )

P.S. I read your reply in the workplace relations thread a little bit ago....very insightful and intelligent analysis of the gender dynamics in the workplace....It was quite enlightening. Thanks.

Thanks for the appreciation...it's a serious issue and it was a great thread... I thought the posters (particulalry the male posters) showed tremendous courage in their candor regarding the confusion...it is what I like about this site-- there is tremendous safety here to discuss really about anything...and tremendous support as well...Kudos again to John Stone..and to all of us too who help create it. :claphigh:

(for those who are curious -- this is the thread being referenced to: http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=18060)

In my mind, the best quantification of interest level isn't necessarily the absolute number of views/posts, but rather, the longetivity of the thread, AND the number of views per post.

As of this post, the LL thread has 123 posts and 9,030 views, giving a 73.14 view/post ratio.

Fit women thread has 70 posts and 8,789 views giving a 125.55 view/post ratio.

Thus, I conclude that people find the fit women thread more interesting :)
Depends what you mean about interesting as well.

If people find things sufficiently "interesting" they will post about it, driving up both the views and the post count.

Incidentally, I predict that the "show me your glutes" thread will show pretty rapid growth, mostly by people asking for more pics of Pam's butt. :D