Okay, have you ever had people give you nutrtion advice even though they have no business giving it to you? My dad is about 70 pounds heavier than I am, and one time he was telling me that chocolate is good for you because it's an antioxidant. I would have told him that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, but I actually had no idea what an antioxidant is and I actually watched this TV show where this French chick was saying the same thing about chocolate. So, is chocolate really an antioxidant and are antioxidants good for you?

My dad also one time told me honey was good for you because it's easier to digest. That didn't make much sense to me as I always thought it was better for foods to be harder to digest because then your body would burn more calories trying to digest it, but I didn't say anything because I really didn't know anything about the nutrition of honey, I assume it's just empty calories though. So, anyway, is it better for foods to be easy to digest or hard to digest? Is there any nutritional benefit of honey or does my dad have no idea what he's talking about?

Okay, have you ever had people give you nutrtion advice even though they have no business giving it to you? My dad is about 70 pounds heavier than I am, and one time he was telling me that chocolate is good for you because it's an antioxidant. I would have told him that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, but I actually had no idea what an antioxidant is and I actually watched this TV show where this French chick was saying the same thing about chocolate. So, is chocolate really an antioxidant and are antioxidants good for you?

My dad also one time told me honey was good for you because it's easier to digest. That didn't make much sense to me as I always thought it was better for foods to be harder to digest because then your body would burn more calories trying to digest it, but I didn't say anything because I really didn't know anything about the nutrition of honey, I assume it's just empty calories though. So, anyway, is it better for foods to be easy to digest or hard to digest? Is there any nutritional benefit of honey or does my dad have no idea what he's talking about?

Pure dark chocolate (not milk) has antioxidants, as does fruit. So eat in moderation, it can be beneficial.
Honey is good for you. Depending how you look at it. If you are insulin phobic, than you could say it's not, but there are health benefits to eating honey, do some research.

Honey is good for you. Depending how you look at it. If you are insulin phobic, than you could say it's not, but there are health benefits to eating honey, do some research.

Plus, it's sweeter than sugar for less calories! Not that I'm the one anyone should take after but I use honey a lot myself, for example when I put it on a piece of ww bread with peanut butter about ten minutes ago. :)

You can also get the different kinds of honey for different flavors. I'm finishing off a jar of wildflower myself. There's a ton of flavor and sweetness in there.

If you are insulin phobic, than you could say it's not, but there are health benefits to eating honey, do some research.

Err, honey is low GI - at least raw, non refined is. I must admit it was a shock the first time I saw a diabetic friend of mine eating pure honeycomb (sp?). I think it is mostly fructose, but the USDA says sucrose and maltose - that may be the prcessed stuff.

I think it is the low fructose, processed stuff that is probably more like just eating sugar.

I put honey in my oatmeal in the morning. :p

I think the biggest concern with chocolate and honey is that it's calorie dense. Dark chocolate or cocoa is actually pretty healthy. It's the semisweets and milk chocolates that get you in trouble.

Pure honey is a good sweetner. We buy ours from a local bee farm (love living in prairie provinces). Pound for pound more calories but you can use a lot less honey because it is WAY sweeter. Great alternative in baking, but will give muffins and cookies a slightly darker colour + plus you have to back off your liquids in recipes if using honey.

When you have a sore throat, nothing beats tea and a little honey.

Just be aware of the number of cals per tblsp and go from there so you don't blow your daily numbers.

I'll take honey over refined sugar any day of the week.

I think the biggest concern with chocolate and honey is that it's calorie dense. Dark chocolate or cocoa is actually pretty healthy. It's the semisweets and milk chocolates that get you in trouble.


Huh? What's the difference between semi-sweet chocolate and dark chocolate? I thought those were the same thing?

Err, honey is low GI - at least raw, non refined is. I must admit it was a shock the first time I saw a diabetic friend of mine eating pure honeycomb (sp?). I think it is mostly fructose, but the USDA says sucrose and maltose - that may be the prcessed stuff.

I think it is the low fructose, processed stuff that is probably more like just eating sugar.


Just fyi- there's not much "processing" in honey- the stuff you buy in the store like "Sue Bee" or a generic brand that will say "grade a" or whatever is blended, meaning they mix from several sources to get consistency of flavor/color but that's about it.

SOme large processors do pre-heat and or micro-filter honey and even try to deactivate yeast but that's mostly to keep moisture content below 20% (to prevent premature spoilage). It only microscopically effects the chemical qualities.

"Single source" honeys such as "wildflower, basswood, orange blossom, tupelo," etc all have there own, unique flavors which can run from almost colorless and light to as dark and strong as molasses. I prefer single-source but of course that's because I get it from 20 feet out my back door (yeah- we're beekeepers). You should all do yourself a favor- buy single-source. You'll never go back to blended.

semi sweet...vs total dark chocolate..is about its cocoa butter content..and other additives etc. 100% cocoa is actually almost alittle bitter in taste..but healthy and full of anti oxidants..

Okay, have you ever had people give you nutrtion advice even though they have no business giving it to you? My dad is about 70 pounds heavier than I am, and one time he was telling me that chocolate is good for you because it's an antioxidant.
Why not do some research on the nutritional advice that someone gives you instead of just assuming it's wrong simply because it sounds unbelievable?

It sounds like your dad is considerably healthier than you are, even if he is 70 pounds heavier than you. Keep in mind, of course, that the healthiest people are not necessarily the slimmest.

Personally, if I was given advice from someone named Master Moron, I would make sure I found a few additional sources to back it up.

Personally, if I was given advice from someone named Master Moron, I would make sure I found a few additional sources to back it up.

:tu: I'd make the same recommendation with someone who calls themselves 'NEdge'. :D

Just fyi- there's not much "processing" in honey- the stuff you buy in the store like "Sue Bee" or a generic brand that will say "grade a" or whatever is blended, meaning they mix from several sources to get consistency of flavor/color but that's about it.

SOme large processors do pre-heat and or micro-filter honey and even try to deactivate yeast but that's mostly to keep moisture content below 20% (to prevent premature spoilage). It only microscopically effects the chemical qualities.

"Single source" honeys such as "wildflower, basswood, orange blossom, tupelo," etc all have there own, unique flavors which can run from almost colorless and light to as dark and strong as molasses. I prefer single-source but of course that's because I get it from 20 feet out my back door (yeah- we're beekeepers). You should all do yourself a favor- buy single-source. You'll never go back to blended.


Thanks for that. I must admit I had no idea how processed off-the-shelf honey is (or isn't).

Why not do some research on the nutritional advice that someone gives you instead of just assuming it's wrong simply because it sounds unbelievable?

It sounds like your dad is considerably healthier than you are, even if he is 70 pounds heavier than you. Keep in mind, of course, that the healthiest people are not necessarily the slimmest.


Right...so I guess frying everything with huge amounts of butter, eating candy all the time, and eating portions three times the size of everyone else is healthy too since my dad does that too and my dad is healthier than I am. I guess having a huge beer gut is a sign of good health these days. :d_rolleye

Plus, it's sweeter than sugar for less calories! Not that I'm the one anyone should take after but I use honey a lot myself, for example when I put it on a piece of ww bread with peanut butter about ten minutes ago. :)

You can also get the different kinds of honey for different flavors. I'm finishing off a jar of wildflower myself. There's a ton of flavor and sweetness in there.

Not much fewer calories / sugar has 64 calories in a tablespoon / honey has 46 in a tablespoon and that is only because it contains water and when you use it as a sweetner you are going to end up dumping enough in to make it taste just as sweet as refined sugar would make it taste so you end up with the same amount of calories and your body uses both the same.

- Really any sugar in moderation ( a little bitty bit ) isn't going to kill your diet, but too much of it will - honey really isn't that great if you are trying to drop pounds.

Right...so I guess frying everything with huge amounts of butter, eating candy all the time, and eating portions three times the size of everyone else is healthy too since my dad does that too and my dad is healthier than I am. I guess having a huge beer gut is a sign of good health these days. :d_rolleye

Is that really necessary? I think her point was merely that before you discredit someone because they may be "heavier" than you, you might want to research it as they may very well be right. Plenty of people could (and do) write books on healthy eating yet carry a bit of extra weight themselves. Not everyone practices what they preach.