Guys I'm having trouble figuring this out. I have a basic understanding of proper dieting, good foods etc but I'm starting to experiment now and this part is really screwing me up.

If I look at the nutritional contents of each of these cereals and compare it to a healthy one like Kashi or whole grain cheerios, I see little difference.

Is a bowl of Capt Crunch or Frosted Flakes much worse then a bowl of Kashi?

If so, why?

and finally ARE they bad? or is it just that there are better options out there.

Thanks

The only good thing in a box of Frosted Flakes is the Sith red lightspoon...

..............ahem. Look at the sugar and fiber count. Are you sure they're really the same as Kashi?

(really, I prefer Nature's Path brand cereals, but that's just me)

The only good thing in a box of Frosted Flakes is the Sith red lightspoon...

..............ahem. Look at the sugar and fiber count. Are you sure they're really the same as Kashi?

(really, I prefer Nature's Path brand cereals, but that's just me)

Are they the ones who make Hi-Protein Crunch? I really like that stuff. :tucool:

Are they the ones who make Hi-Protein Crunch? I really like that stuff. :tucool:

Ehhhhh.... r...

They make a lot of stuff. http://www.naturespath.com/products/ I don't know about the cereal you just named. I tend to bounce around the various Optimum cereals.

Probably because kashi somehow has earned a rep for being the "healthy" cereal when in fact this reputation is not supported by whats actually in it.

You can never go wrong with oatmeal or bacon/eggs for breakfast.

Yeah, the Nature's Path OP cereal is better than Kashi's Go Lean. A bit more sugar and slightly greater cals but it's a damn good start to the morning.

Probably because kashi somehow has earned a rep for being the "healthy" cereal when in fact this reputation is not supported by whats actually in it.

You can never go wrong with oatmeal or bacon/eggs for breakfast.
I have oatmeal in the evening, eggs + shake in the AM

bacon? i thought that was fatty

thanks guys, i am just trying to add a little diversity to my diet.. i don't plan on having cereal everyday, just a few times a week if i go with it

Guys I'm having trouble figuring this out. I have a basic ......

When i started working out, i ate fruit loops like it was going out of style. I found it to give me so much energy that I could of probably done 12 workouts in a day and still feel like i was just born. I didnt find it affected my body much because im young, and my metabolism is good right now.

However, at any age; you should eat healthier sh*t like oatmeal, or stuff with lots of fibre in it. Your colon will thank you for it.

bacon? i thought that was fatty

It is. And it's part of a balanced diet. It's good fats that you need, you just don't need a whole plate full. Three or four slices is a good serving size. Along with some egg whites, there's few better protein/fat source meals that're whole food out there.

-R

It is. And it's part of a balanced diet. It's good fats that you need, you just don't need a whole plate full. Three or four slices is a good serving size. Along with some egg whites, there's few better protein/fat source meals that're whole food out there.

-R

Wait, since when are the saturated fats in bacon "good fats that you need?"

That's simply incorrect and harmful to people disposed to have heart issues (poor lipids, hypertension).

Probably because kashi somehow has earned a rep for being the "healthy" cereal when in fact this reputation is not supported by whats actually in it.



What do you mean by this? I don't see anything in the ingredients list that makes my head spin.

Wait, since when are the saturated fats in bacon "good fats that you need?"

That's simply incorrect and harmful to people disposed to have heart issues (poor lipids, hypertension).

I've cut successfully eating bacon with my breakfast (a chicken breast, if it matters) daily. 3 slices of bacon, to be exact.

I wouldn't say "harmful"... Roger's one of those who's done his homework around here, and I doubt he'd say anything that was going to worsen a reader's health.

The key, as in all things, is moderation. Bacon for breakfast isn't going to kill anyone. Bacon for breakfast, lunch, an dinner might be a bad idea. As long as your other fats come from sources such as flax oil, natural PB, etc, it's not going to be a problem.

A slice of cooked pork bacon has about 3 grams of fat, 1 saturated. Some saturated fat is healthy for testosterone production, and it is generally considered best for about 1/3 of your fat intake to be saturated. Any more than that would probably be excess.

As was said, monitoring portion sizes is the key.

Wait, since when are the saturated fats in bacon "good fats that you need?"

That's simply incorrect and harmful to people disposed to have heart issues (poor lipids, hypertension).

Yeah, but you're gonna get saturated fats in with other sources, too. There's no reason to aim for bacon.

Ehhhhh.... r...

They make a lot of stuff. http://www.naturespath.com/products/ I don't know about the cereal you just named. I tend to bounce around the various Optimum cereals.

Oh sorry...Nature's Path is the one that makes Optimum Slim and a few others. I got it mixed up. I don't know any of the other Optimum cereals. Optimum Slim is pretty good.

Hi-Protein Crunch is like something with Nature and Valley in the name...I forget what it's called, and I'm not going to downstairs to look at the box. Maybe I will later and edit this post.

I think the point is, there is no reason to specifically avoid it just because of a little saturated fat. There is just as much saturated fat in a scoop of my protein powder.

I love bacon, but I don't eat the stuff. It doesn't really work into my approach very well. Again, the point is--it can be a part of a healthy diet. For some folks, a little bacon may help them stay on track; there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

My apologies to the author of this thread for the bacon tangent. :p

Here's what I think about the cereal issue: there are better choices than highly-processed boxed cereals, whether we're talking about Trix or Kashi. True, there is more nutritional value (more fiber and less sugar) in Kashi than Froot Loops.

A better choice would be oats, for example. The better foods are the ones that are the least processed and have fewer artificial additives. Whole foods are best; as Tom Venuto likes to say, "did it come off the tree or out of the ground that way?" I have never seen Cocoa Pebbles grow on a tree. Maybe it's not the best thing to put into my body on a regular basis. ;)

Yeah, but you're gonna get saturated fats in with other sources, too. There's no reason to aim for bacon.

A slice of cooked pork bacon has about 3 grams of fat, 1 saturated. Some saturated fat is healthy for testosterone production, and it is generally considered best for about 1/3 of your fat intake to be saturated. Any more than that would probably be excess.

As was said, monitoring portion sizes is the key.

Yup-this is true. 1/3 of your fat intake coming from saturated fat is generally considered sound for most people. For some, it might by better to have more than 2/3 from EFAs, monos, and polys.

Here's what I think about the cereal issue: there are better choices than highly-processed boxed cereals, whether we're talking about Trix or Kashi. True, there is more nutritional value (more fiber and less sugar) in Kashi than Froot Loops.

A better choice would be oats, for example. The better foods are the ones that are the least processed and have fewer artificial additives. Whole foods are best; as Tom Venuto likes to say, "did it come off the tree or out of the ground that way?" I have never seen Cocoa Pebbles grow on a tree. Maybe it's not the best thing to put into my body on a regular basis. ;)

I agree with this too. I think oats are better than Kashi although I do sometimes eat Kashi Seven Grains. All brands of Kashi are better than a cereal like fruit loops because of the sugar and fiber content. I wouldn't worry about it as long as you're having sucess. Kashi's still fairly healthy. No need to nitpick.

Yeah, the Nature's Path OP cereal is better than Kashi's Go Lean. A bit more sugar and slightly greater cals but it's a damn good start to the morning.

Incidentally, I used to practically live off of Optimum Power, but now I can't stand it (over did it). I've ended up mixing the various Nature's Path cereals to create custom mixes instead.