View Full Version : cutting out pb for awhile...and doing HIIT


Mick Mauldin
Sun, May 8th, 2005, 12:25 AM
Ok,. I've been eating a serving of nutural penut butter a day for several months now. I've also been doing fasted state cardio. What if I shake things up a bit by cutting out the p.b. as well as switch up my cardio to HIIT? Do you think this would shake up my metabolism? I'm losing a pound a week. I'm droping fat but not fast enough...

I'm eating around 1750 to 1800 calories a day and w/p.b., I'm getting about 34-38g of fat a day.

any thoughts?
thanks...

freelancer
Sun, May 8th, 2005, 04:46 AM
Ok,. I've been eating a serving of nutural penut butter a day for several months now. I've also been doing fasted state cardio. What if I shake things up a bit by cutting out the p.b. as well as switch up my cardio to HIIT? Do you think this would shake up my metabolism? I'm losing a pound a week. I'm droping fat but not fast enough...

I'm eating around 1750 to 1800 calories a day and w/p.b., I'm getting about 34-38g of fat a day.

any thoughts?
thanks...

good luck ive tried to stop eating peanut butter but i cant i always break and have some :p . I love peanut butter.

Mick Mauldin
Sun, May 8th, 2005, 10:22 AM
good luck ive tried to stop eating peanut butter but i cant i always break and have some :p . I love peanut butter.

Do you think just chsnging up my cardio will jolt my metabolism up enough? One of my good sources of calories is a serving of p.b. and a swerving of beef jerky? I'm not sure if I should drop my fat any lower...

Speed Trials
Sun, May 8th, 2005, 11:46 AM
I think the only thing you need to change about what you're currently doing is your expectations. You're losing a pound a week, which is great, so whatever you're doing is working. And there's really no reason to remove the peanut butter from your diet if it's not causing you to exceed your daily caloric requirements.

wh0rume
Sun, May 8th, 2005, 12:07 PM
if you REALLY want to increase your metabolism, eat more AND excersize more.

Oranzith
Sun, May 8th, 2005, 04:28 PM
well, no reason to cut out the p.b. nor beef jerky. changing foods wont increase your metabolism. simply making ANY change won't change your metabolism. I'm not sure where you got that idea.

in fact, removing healthy fats will almost definitely lower your metabolism

slush_puppy
Sun, May 8th, 2005, 07:49 PM
I think the only thing you need to change about what you're currently doing is your expectations.
That's the absolute best advice you're going to get in this thread, Mick. You're doing great, just be patient.

Specialbear
Sun, May 8th, 2005, 08:12 PM
so ur telling me that taking out HEALTHY fats will help you lose weight???

I really dont think so....


why not do cardio in the moring followed by HIIT in the PM on ur non lifting days to shake things up

Mick Mauldin
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 12:51 AM
thanks. The information you all gave was what I was looking for. I'll just change up my cardio for about 6 weeks and see if I see any drop in fat. Should I stay on HIIT longer than six weeks...give it longer to work? I'm just trying to shake up things. Also, about the p.b....I noticed when John statring cutting, he stopped eating the p.b. So I was thinking of giving it a try. I would rather not though...

karatetricker
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 01:07 AM
Also, about the p.b....I noticed when John statring cutting, he stopped eating the p.b. So I was thinking of giving it a try. I would rather not though...

Are you John? :confused:


I don't look at his food logs often, so I don't know if/why he did so. Perhaps because PB is very calorie dense and it left him still hungry when on a cutting diet. That would be the only reason I can come up with. Who knows? Either way, it doesn't mean you can't eat it. What I can promise you is that cutting out PB will not increase your fat loss assuming you maintain a well balanced diet.

don_1987
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 03:26 AM
Different people may have different results. Just because John did that, you need to do that do, right? And lowering calories also means lowering your metabolism. The only logical reason why you need to drop PB is that it's calorie-dense and you'll probobly still be hungry. But since you're losing a pound a week, I think you're doing fine. Losing weight faster puts you in the risk of losing more muscle mass...

Klownpoet
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 12:42 PM
are you john.. hehehe :p

Mick Mauldin
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 02:18 PM
are you john.. hehehe :p

no. but whatever john's doing, is working right... :p
It's as simple as that. :D

Mick Mauldin
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 02:20 PM
Different people may have different results. Just because John did that, you need to do that do, right? And lowering calories also means lowering your metabolism. The only logical reason why you need to drop PB is that it's calorie-dense and you'll probobly still be hungry. But since you're losing a pound a week, I think you're doing fine. Losing weight faster puts you in the risk of losing more muscle mass...


I'm more concerned w/fat than I am with weight. Thanks for the encourgement...! :tu:

karatetricker
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 02:54 PM
no. but whatever john's doing, is working right... :p
It's as simple as that. :D

No, it's not "as simple as that". If it were that simple, there wouldn't be 1000's of different diet and exercise plans for people and the fitness industry would be non-existent.

There would be one golden diet that everyone in the world would follow and receive the same results.

Different people react completely differently to different foods, calorie intakes, forms of exercise, amounts of exercise, etc. Trying to do as someone else does to the "T" just because they acheived results will do you no good as your metabolism, reaction to certain nutrients, etc may differ greatly. John has tracked everything he's done for over 2 years now, so he knows what his body can and can't handle. It by no means will mean your body will react the same way. The only way to determine what is best for you is to "experiment", but not by relying on what someone else does to work for you.

TheRyanator
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 03:33 PM
I have a busy day at work so I did not have time to do more than skim this thread.

I cut out PB in my PWO shake the last three weeks and have seen some good results. I am still getting healthy fats through a serving of almonds I eat per day and other sources. Heck, everyone is different...it might work for John or for me, but it might not for you. The only way to find out is to give it a try. So try it for the next two weeks and let us know how it works for you.

karatetricker
Mon, May 9th, 2005, 03:38 PM
I have a busy day at work so I did not have time to do more than skim this thread.

I cut out PB in my PWO shake the last three weeks and have seen some good results. I am still getting healthy fats through a serving of almonds I eat per day and other sources. Heck, everyone is different...it might work for John or for me, but it might not for you. The only way to find out is to give it a try. So try it for the next two weeks and let us know how it works for you.

Well, he was not talking about cutting it just out of a PWO meal. It would make sense that you'd see better results for taking it out of your PWO meal because the fat slows the absorption of the carbs and protein to your muscles, thus not allowing for optimal recovery.

don_1987
Tue, May 10th, 2005, 01:58 AM
I'm more concerned w/fat than I am with weight. Thanks for the encourgement...! :tu:
I can understand that you want to lose fat as soon as possible even though that means you have to sacrifice muscle in order to do so. But sacrificing muscle should not even be considered.
Think of it this way, the lesser muscle you have, the harder you'll lose fat. Even though you lose weight, if you lose a lot of muscle, chances are you'll look just like your previous self, only smaller. Meaning to say, you'll still have that gut you were tying to lose even though your weight has gone down. And this time, losing it will be that much harder because you have even less muscles.