People talk about taking glutamine as a supplement. In John's food logs during his bulk, I believe he took 12 grams in the morning.

However, I noticed on my protein tubs that my ON casien protein (which I take before bed) has 9 grams of glutamine in it, and my ON whey protein has around 3.5 grams of gluatmine in it. So that is 12.5 grams right there. Do you think that is enough glutamine for the day, or should one take additional glutamine on top of this?

Glutamine becomes more important when on a below maint. calorie diet, hardenning/cutting phase, or when preparing for a bodybuilding show. Otherwise, the amounts from your shakes should suffice.

I wouldn't spend any money on additional glutamine, as I've seen recent evidence that when supplementing through oral consumption, the liver simply converts it to glucose.

I wouldn't spend any money on additional glutamine, as I've seen recent evidence that when supplementing through oral consumption, the liver simply converts it to glucose.

provide a link to that.. im really curious! because i take 2 caps every morning!

Adam

I wouldn't spend any money on additional glutamine, as I've seen recent evidence that when supplementing through oral consumption, the liver simply converts it to glucose.

Yeah Kino, I have read that opinion from you on a few threads in the past, and it is the reason I ultimately ended up not buying any glutamine. Noticing that my whey has all this glutamine (especially the casein) makes me all the more apprehensive about it.

The glucose conversion of glutamine takes place in the kidneys, hence isulin levels are not increased.

The glucose conversion of glutamine takes place in the kidneys, hence isulin levels are not increased.

I'm not referring to glucose conversion, I'm referring to the validity of supplementing glutamine orally. Flip through this post. (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showpost.php?p=129902&postcount=4)

I'm not referring to glucose conversion, I'm referring to the validity of supplementing glutamine orally. Flip through this post. (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showpost.php?p=129902&postcount=4)

Thanks for the clarification. Actually I am familiar with Mr. Norton and Dr. Joe (have spoken to Joe a few times) and although I agree and disagree with a lot of their theories, I agree with Joe on glutamine. Please understand that this is based on personal experience only. Often times what looks good in studies and on paper, doesn't transfer into the real world of exercise and fitness.

Thanks for the clarification. Actually I am familiar with Mr. Norton and Dr. Joe (have spoken to Joe a few times) and although I agree and disagree with a lot of their theories, I agree with Joe on glutamine. Please understand that this is based on personal experience only. Often times what looks good in studies and on paper, doesn't transfer into the real world of exercise and fitness.

I figured you'd at least know Dr. Joe. If I was dropping $500+ for help I'd be prone to listen to that persons advise myself. This one wasn't an easy thing for me to swallow, and I still bought a container of Bev's Glutamine Select right after reading Laynes post on the OCB boards. (I needed to get some BCAA's anyway) However...the guy makes alot of sense, and there are a few very well known natural pros that are turning to him for his input on different supplements. Personally...I'll spend my money on stuff that I know will show me some results...like food and creatine.