:lol: Excellent!!! :claplow:

I loved the movie, so did my mom, because now when she wants fast food, she buys 2 big macs. :D

It's pretty much inspired me to never go there again. I realize he threw some of his own slant in there, but facts are facts. Much of this was true. It's also caused me to buy Eric Schlosser's "Fast Food Nation" off of ebay tonight. I like to watch the extras on DVDs and they interviewed Schlosser on an extra clip on the DVD and he brought up many more facts that are pretty apalling.

One thing I noticed when I had let myself go two years ago and was eating fast food 4-5 times a week and weighed in the 270s was when I sweated the sweat smelled bad.! :p

Damnit!

I wanna see that movie so bad but they don´t seem to have it in Spain. Well, I´m moving back to Denmark at summer so I just have to wait I guess. By the way, I have only had McD ONCE since September and I don´t see myself eating there again.....

How did I turn into such a fitness-freak? :confused:

:D

Once you read Fast Food Nation, you will never eat McDonald's again.

Supersize Me is the tip of the iceberg compared to that book.

I loved this movie. I don't eat McDonalds anyway, I have not had it in years. Taco Bell is what I ate when I did not care what I was eating. I don't eat it anymore except maybe once a month as a cheat. I don't think I will anymore, I can make tacos that are superior in every way (except time to prepare).

Additionally, the interview with Eric Schlosser was very interesting. My girlfriend and I decided to start buying meat and produce from our local organic store, and to pay attention to the brands we buy, and how they go about producing the food we eat. My favorite quote from that interview went something like:

"you can give your money to the evil corporations, or give it to the cool people who do the right thing."

I agree with that statement, and I will strive to give my money to the cool people.

You'll see a lot of people here who give the supersize me guy a lot of flak as he didn't exercise while he was doing the film. But I am one of the peple who liked it to. Sure he slanted it to meet his needs - but I don't think anyone will argue that those fries are toxic (look at the dvd extras for the "forever" fries expiriement he did)

It tweaks me a little that the McDonald's diet professor (http://www.truthinfitness.org/projects/mcDonalds/journal.html) avoided fries for most of his diet - in reality McDonalds DOES push the burger/fires/gallon of coke as a meal - and for most of the american public - exercising just isn't their way of life. Its a sad reality - but a real one.

Is that McDonalds fault? No - but man those fries are toxic!! ;)

You'll see a lot of people here who give the supersize me guy a lot of flak as he didn't exercise while he was doing the film. But I am one of the peple who liked it to. Sure he slanted it to meet his needs - but I don't think anyone will argue that those fries are toxic (look at the dvd extras for the "forever" fries expiriement he did)

It tweaks me a little that the McDonald's diet professor (http://www.truthinfitness.org/projects/mcDonalds/journal.html) avoided fries for most of his diet - in reality McDonalds DOES push the burger/fires/gallon of coke as a meal - and for most of the american public - exercising just isn't their way of life. Its a sad reality - but a real one.

Is that McDonalds fault? No - but man those fries are toxic!! ;)


I thought he restricted his exercise deliberately to that of the "average american" which is why he didn't work out... that was my understanding anyway.

I just saw that movie on Monday, and I thought it was great. Made me ill, but just the same - I only eat out about once a month anyway. I'm NOT wasting my one day out at the golden arches! :D

You'll see a lot of people here who give the supersize me guy a lot of flak as he didn't exercise while he was doing the film.

I would agree that him not excersizing during his "experiment" was actually the right thing to do. By not excersizing, he is isolating the effects of the food he was eating. If he DID excersize, he would skew the results.

I'm NOT wasting my one day out at the golden arches! :D


'nuff said. :cool:

Vatechguy,
referrring to your sig. Congratulations! :claplow:

yeah Fast Food Nation is one of the better books Ive read in awhile, anybody whos interested in nutrition vs. corporate greed and stuff should check it out. A very good factual read, starts slow but is interesting all the same.

Lat time I went to McD's (a long time ago, long before I saw the movie), I got a diet Sprite & drink it slowly while my GF had her meal she wanted. Didn't feel the least bit awkward about it.

I wanted a Big Mac so bad after I saw that movie. I did like the movie though. Yes it was biased...whatever.
The next weekend I went to Wendy's and got a triple quarter pounder with cheese, and the crispy chicken sandwich. :eat: It was a good cheat meal, brought on from that movie. Maybe I saw some subliminal message that no one else did... :confused:

Jeff

I finally saw Supersize me just yesterday. I was going to return it to the library tomorrow, but I'll have to check the DVD for those extras now.

The librarian told me "You'll never eat at McDonald's again." Not true. The movie did nothing to me in regards to my feelings towards McDonald's. I'll still happily eat my Chicken Oriental Salad. Nothing surprised me about that movie except for the footage of the school cafeteria. Frightening what those children eat. Are their parents even aware of it?

I read Fast Food Nation a few weeks ago, and found it pretty boring; too political for me. Really, I don't know why it would scare people off fast food any more than it would scare them off grocery store food.

i saw the movie and hated it.

i was like 'wow, morgan spurlock is a regular sherlock holmes now.'

i do appreciate his slant on things (that's why people like moore), and if it raises awareness to start exercising and not eating so much fast food, then more power to him.

however, to me, it was nothing but a 1.5 hour commercial for mcdonalds. in fact, after the movie, i ate a big mac meal with large fries and large diet coke. it tasted like heaven. and their soft serve is just AWESOME.

what gets me, is, in the beginning of the movie, they talk to some black kids who say they're on their way to mcdonalds. then spurlock asks them if they're worried about their weight or what not, and they reply "y'all need to hit the treadmill or something." and that was the last they said about that.

fast food nation, on the other hand, was decent. opened my eyes to some stuff, but nothing to the extent slaughterhouse five did. you guys should try that book.

Boy, "Fast Food Nation" did it for me. I read that book September 2003. Haven't had fast food hamburgers, fries since them. The closest I come to fast food is Subway. Anyway, I have my 5 and 3 year old trained. They won't eat their either, they call it "yucky food." If I were to pull into the parking lot of Wendy's or McD's or Burger King, or one of those, they would throw a royal fit. :lol: I also RARELY eat red meat. maybe 2 times a month -tops. but, never buy it. I just don't trust it. And well, raw meat grosses me out anyway.

I also watched "Supersize" me last fall... I enjoyed it as well.

I loved Fast Food Nation - I've bought ground beef literally 5-6 times since reading the book 2 years ago. I treat it like toxic waste when I buy it - sterile technique all the way in handwashing, cleaning cooking area, etc.

It was a bit monotomous for me. Besides the nutrition, Mcds tastes terrible to me

Read Fast Food Nation, sort of enjoyed it, liked Super Size Me a lot, but damned if those Chicken McNuggets and fries still don't call my name.

however, to me, it was nothing but a 1.5 hour commercial for mcdonalds. in fact, after the movie, i ate a big mac meal with large fries and large diet coke. it tasted like heaven. and their soft serve is just AWESOME

Nothing positive was said about mcdonalds, how can you consider it a commercial for them ?

Nothing positive was said about mcdonalds, how can you consider it a commercial for them ?
There's no such thing as bad press.

Kinda funny I'm sitting here watching it now!

Nothing surprised me, I knew everything he said and assume most people do as well.

Likewise, I've not eaten at McDonalds for over five years, the it isn't even food by my understanding of the word.

I haven't any Burger King in forever either, but heck, at least the burgers have some taste! MCD is crap.

I've probably had 10 burgers in the last 6 years and would be fine with never having another one. Aside from meatloaf a couple times a year I almost never eat ground beef of any kind.

I agree with guava in that fast food nation didn't turn me off to fast food....The thing that stands out in my mind was that McD's and company actually has the clout to demand the highest quality ground beef and that other sources are actually worse (such as public schools). It actually gave me a bit more confidence in the safety and quality of certain ingredients used in fast food (uhhhh, I guess just the ground beef). However, i've always been turned off to the fast food industry as a whole simply on principle so the book wouldn't have affected me anyway.

Fast Food nation was extremely interesting to me as an economics book explaining the homogenization of America-but I also had strange urges to experiment with fast food. When I'm in there (I have a weakness for Wendy's) I think of it as the same kind of vice as if I were in an opium den-everyone around you is doing something they shouldn't be doing but you can still get drawn into it.

I've also seen Spurlock's movie-somewhat entertaining but nothing ground shatterring. He did what he said he'd do, and he just had the foresight to film it all and crack a few jokes during the process. Nothing worthy of an Oscar nomination though IMO.

The facts are: Fast food is gross and evil but the chemicals they use work to create a temporary good feeling if you happen to have a taste for it. If you find it totally gross, you're lucky.

For those who really wanted to eat McDonald's after watching Supersize Me, you now know the true power of branding. It worked because you already knew of MickeyD's before watching it and had enjoyed at least some pleasure from their food or overall experience even if it was just once at your friend's 7th birthday party when you got a Happy Meal with a GI Joe with the kung fu grip.

im having a hard time believing he was 11% BF before starting his project :rolleyes:

If you pay attention, the numbers don't add up for Spurlock.... to gain 17 lbs in 12 days, he would have had to eat a LOT MORE than what he reported. I think it's about 5000 calories above maintenance requirements, or 7500 if you go by Spurlock's 2500 cal/day maintenance requirement. Spurlock, at most, was consuming about 5000 cal/day total.

I believe he admitted to snacking on top of the three "square" meals at McD's when confronted with that fact.... which goes against his whole basic premise.

And I remember the expert nutritionalist saying some incorrect stuff in the movie as well.... but maybe I didn't hear her correctly.

I thought it was funny that Spurlock was saying he was in fantastic shape before the "experiment".... he didn't look like the Ironman he was making himself out to be.

I have not read Fast Food Nation but it appears from some of your other posts that the quality of ground beef is "questionable?" I eat ground beef for at least 4 of my meals per week. (sometimes as many as 12) Can someone please explain a little about what exactly the problem is with ground beef?

MP

I'm not hardcore about it, but the basics are:

1. The animals are pumped full of hormones and generally don't move and eat cheap food. Fast food companies have altered the economics of the ranching industry, making it impractical to raise quality beef and practically eliminating the small rancher. Eventually there will be only extremely expensive corn fed or total crap meat from cattle that have never grazed or even moved in their life.

2. The fast food companies add their own sick ass chemical flavoring agents which are mainly manufactured in a lab in New Jersey. The taste which you think is beef is actually just artificial flavoring. The meat itself is total sh#t-and of course it's frozen and reheated which requires additional chemical agents to be added. These chemicals have been shown to be addictive to some people and when they are introduced to children (combined with the massive marketing campaigns) it's tantamount to tobacco companies hooking young people. There's a certain good feeling most people get after a huge McDonald's meal which later turns into feeling like total crap.



This being said I still like to eat Wendy's about once a month and Mickey D's maybe once a year. In and Out here in Cally is pretty good though.

To gain that much weight in that many days is possible.

He reduced his activity to the like of a normal person;
He ate 5k calories a day;
Only 3 meals a day;

I'm not saying he gained all that weight as fat, because he did not. If they said he did, they are liers, in my opinion.

But to eat that muchs more calories per day right there would put on alot of Fat,

Then comes the meals, only 3, doesn't the body store fat if a meal is more than 600-700 calories? He ate AVG 1700 calories per meal.

ALOT of the food he ate all had simple carbs(lots of sugar)

He retained a whole lot of water.

If I ate exactly like him for a week I would Easily put on 15 pounds of water and some fat.

*shrug* weird movie, I liked it

There's no such thing as bad press.

Now there is.

Me and many friends don't visit McDonald's and such trash restaurants any longer after seeing the movie.

im having a hard time believing he was 11% BF before starting his project :rolleyes:
Why? He looked pretty fit to me.

As for the topic of children's food in the cafeteria, it is VERY common, even in high school, for kids to just eat junk for lunch. I know a lot of kids who buy like a couple of cookies and a bag of pretzels for lunch. They're skinny but they don't get the vitamins they need.

I have not read Fast Food Nation but it appears from some of your other posts that the quality of ground beef is "questionable?" I eat ground beef for at least 4 of my meals per week. (sometimes as many as 12) Can someone please explain a little about what exactly the problem is with ground beef?

MP

I don't recall the exact number, but in Fast Food Nation, the author states that one hamburger patty can contain parts from hundreds of cows, I would assume this would apply to ground beef from the supermarket as well.

jason

I don't recall the exact number, but in Fast Food Nation, the author states that one hamburger patty can contain parts from hundreds of cows, I would assume this would apply to ground beef from the super
Market as well.
jason

This is very true in regrads to supermarkets. I used to work for a major grocier and can attest first hand that the beef they use comes from the parts of many different cows, not to mention the cross contamination from different animal prducts.

However, I think that if you watch where you buy your meat from. Lean ground beef is okay. Just try to buy from stores that do not get their meat from suppliers that use hormones and antibiotics on their livestock. When I buy meat I always buy from Whole foods....they seem to be a very repuatable store that really cares about their customers health.

I'm not hardcore about it, but the basics are:

1. The animals are pumped full of hormones and generally don't move and eat cheap food. Fast food companies have altered the economics of the ranching industry, making it impractical to raise quality beef and practically eliminating the small rancher. Eventually there will be only extremely expensive corn fed or total crap meat from cattle that have never grazed or even moved in their life.



What's wrong with cattle that don't move?

Ever heard of Kobe? The japanese have made great beef for years by keeping an animal sedintary and massaging it daily. I think it reduces the "gamey-ness" of the meat by not having adrenaline pumped through the muscles. Ranchers hate it when their cattle get run. Worked muscles make tough meat.

Might be heart-less, but It doesnt bother me what they do to the cow as long as I can cook it and eat it. One thing that bothers me is how they make "veal", if I'm correct that a baby calf, which they dont allow to walk so they keep the meat tender then kill it. I guess Im hypocritical casue I dont care about a cow but i care about a calf...I guess its the whole cute factor.

---Beside that I have been wanting to watch "Super-Size Me!" I am so interested in watching other peole literally kill themselves trying to expose the Government or some other buisness.

Supa

To gain that much weight in that many days is possible.

He reduced his activity to the like of a normal person;
He ate 5k calories a day;
Only 3 meals a day;

I'm not saying he gained all that weight as fat, because he did not. If they said he did, they are liers, in my opinion.

But to eat that muchs more calories per day right there would put on alot of Fat,

Then comes the meals, only 3, doesn't the body store fat if a meal is more than 600-700 calories? He ate AVG 1700 calories per meal.

ALOT of the food he ate all had simple carbs(lots of sugar)

He retained a whole lot of water.

If I ate exactly like him for a week I would Easily put on 15 pounds of water and some fat.

*shrug* weird movie, I liked it

I don't think it's possible on his diet.... If you do the math, he'd have gained about 9 pounds in water and 8 in whatever else...and here is an excerpt from an interview on CNBC where he admitted that he didn't follow by the rules he stated in the beginning of the movie. I wonder what kind of snacking he did???? Nothing like a gallon of creme brulee.



BARTIROMO: Some skeptics have done the math.

Mr. SPURLOCK: Sure.

BARTIROMO: And they say there's no way that you can conclude eating three full meals a day...

Mr. SPURLOCK: Yeah.

BARTIROMO: ...at McDonald's would get you anywhere close to 5,000 calories a day. Were you snacking? Were you eating something else?

Mr. SPURLOCK: Of course I--of course. Do you have a snack in the afternoon? We all get snacks in the afternoon. You have lunch and then later in the afternoon you're like, 'Wow, you know what? I'm a little tired. I'm going to get a cup of coffee. I'm going to get an apple pie. You know, I'm going to go get--I'm going to get a muffin.' You know, we all go get coffee in the afternoon or some--something to tide us over until dinner so, you know, it's not unrealistic. And the fact is--and I love the other thing they say. They say, 'Nobody eats like this. Nobody'...

BARTIROMO: But that is--that is a fair complaint. Nobody does eat like that.

Mr. SPURLOCK: Well, isn't--you--but here's--you don't eat three meals a day--but I have...

BARTIROMO: And certainly you don't eat three McDonald's meal a day and then have apple pie.

To gain that much weight in that many days is possible.

He reduced his activity to the like of a normal person;
He ate 5k calories a day;
Only 3 meals a day;

I'm not saying he gained all that weight as fat, because he did not. If they said he did, they are liers, in my opinion.

But to eat that muchs more calories per day right there would put on alot of Fat,

Then comes the meals, only 3, doesn't the body store fat if a meal is more than 600-700 calories? He ate AVG 1700 calories per meal.

ALOT of the food he ate all had simple carbs(lots of sugar)

He retained a whole lot of water.

If I ate exactly like him for a week I would Easily put on 15 pounds of water and some fat.

*shrug* weird movie, I liked it

Don't forget that your body is not a perfect processor of food. It does not take all the food you eat and then convert it into energy that you use or store it as fat. If your body worked like that, then you would have no solid waste. There is a limit to how much your body can actually process. If you eat a ton of food, there is a good chance that some of that will come out unprocessed on the other end of your digestive system. So all the food you eat does not go directly into energy or fat.

watch the movie and look closely if he was 11% bodyfat you would see more muscle definition than he was showing


Why? He looked pretty fit to me.

As for the topic of children's food in the cafeteria, it is VERY common, even in high school, for kids to just eat junk for lunch. I know a lot of kids who buy like a couple of cookies and a bag of pretzels for lunch. They're skinny but they don't get the vitamins they need.

I guess your right, not sure tho 5k calories + inhidden snacks does seem kind of alot to me don't you think? :)

It looked to me like he started at about 14-15 percent and finished at 22-23 percent. His metabolic rate probably slowed down considerably during the filming because he got so lazy.

Also, I've heard it said that eating 'clean' can actually help raise your metabolism because your digestive system is running optimally, whereas eating 'shit' can slow it down. Remember the 'McGurgles'?

Plus eating 3 massive meals would slow down your metabolism compared to eating 4 or 5 smaller healthier meals which is probably how he ate before since his girlfriend was a vegan. No huge meals and as a result lots of in between meals.

What I'd like to see is someone who is accustomed to eating all fast food go on a John Stone-like diet and see how they do without incorporating the workouts. Just out of curiosity. My personal belief is that weight training has the biggest effect on your body's appearance, while diet and cardio are powerful for getting rid of the fat.

Man I ramble on incoherently sometimes :d_redface

Wow....

I didnt know that Spurlock had intentionally tried to decieve the public. I really liked this movie until i read this thread. He said clearly in the movie that he would eat 3 meals from Mcdonalds a day and nothing else. Then he admits latter that he was eating apple pie inbetween meals?

McD's has a serious case for a lawsuit against this guy for libelous slander. I'm shocked that they havent done anything. I dont think what he did was just untruthful, i think it was highly illegal. He completely misrepresented a companys product to make his film more sensational.

McD's is bad but Spurlock definently had an agenda as well.

http://www.google.com/search?q=BARTIROMO+spurlock&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N