View Full Version : Green tea, upto 24% boost in endurance


SteveB
Sat, January 29th, 2005, 12:37 AM
Just saw this article today http://www.physorg.com/news2849.html
A 24% increase in endurance just by drinking 4 cups of it a day sounds good to me :)

TheLemonSong
Sat, January 29th, 2005, 12:42 AM
Just saw this article today http://www.physorg.com/news2849.html
A 24% increase in endurance just by drinking 4 cups of it a day sounds good to me :)

Or you could do what I do and take GTE.

fujo
Sat, January 29th, 2005, 01:44 AM
Or you could do what I do and take GTE.

Why do that when green tea tastes so good?

TheLemonSong
Sat, January 29th, 2005, 02:07 AM
Why do that when green tea tastes so good?
Agreed but I like a variety of teas (esp. any tea with Lavander in it..I buy my own herbs and make my own teas) and coffee...not alwyas in the mood for Green Tea

Budoka
Sat, January 29th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Just saw this article today http://www.physorg.com/news2849.html
A 24% increase in endurance just by drinking 4 cups of it a day sounds good to me :)

Wow, cool article!

Having just read through it (and being a regular Green tea drinker myself , one of the more interesting aspects was what seems to be related to the increase in endurance, "accompanied by lower respiratory quotients and higher rates of fat oxidation.".

So, I guess I wonder if whatever it is in GTE that's enabling the body to readily utilize fatty acids for fuel is what's responsible increasing endurance? Hmm, maybe need to re-read the article...

BTW, in the interest of being a typical American sceptic, I do note that the study was conducted by a fairly large corporation who's product line includes green tea beverages, as mentioned n the article itself:

"Research was conducted by Takatoshi Murase, Satoshi Haramizu, Akira Shimotoyodome, Azumi Nagasawa and Ichiro Tokimitsu, working at Kao Corp., a Japanese maker of healthcare products, including green tea beverages"

http://www.kao.co.jp/e/corp_e/profile/gaiyou/index.html


~B

jlats99
Sat, January 29th, 2005, 07:15 PM
anyone make iced green tea. I can't seem to get it right. I read it's not good to boil the water then ice the tea down, because it loses the health enhancing qualities.

JoeBiron
Sat, January 29th, 2005, 07:56 PM
anyone make iced green tea. I can't seem to get it right. I read it's not good to boil the water then ice the tea down, because it loses the health enhancing qualities.
I tried brewing about a quart then tossing it into the fridge. THe next day I was expecting to add some Splenda and drink down a nice tasty cold beverage. YUCK! I dont know what went wrong, but it was horrible! I'm sticking to the hot brew. When I'm out and need a drink from a convenience store I grab the Arizona iced green tea - now THAT is good stuff.

gravityhomer
Sun, January 30th, 2005, 11:19 AM
Just saw this article today http://www.physorg.com/news2849.html
A 24% increase in endurance just by drinking 4 cups of it a day sounds good to me :)

I noticed this quote from the article:

"One of our important findings," Murase pointed out, "was that a single high-dose of GTE or its active ingredients didn't affect performance. So it's the long-term ingestion of GTE that is beneficial." (Murase based his calculations of mouse-to-human tea/GTE consumption equivalents on work his lab is doing on the anti-obesity effects of GTE on mice and humans.)

Later in the article when they go into the details they don't state how they determine this. Did they give some rats continuous dosage and others a single dose?

When you take a GTE supplement is it a single dose?

EDIT: Oh wait, I think maybe I just realized they are talking about the fact that you need to take it on a daily bases before you see any effect. You just can't take it once and expect to have good results the following day. You think that's what they mean?

Brian Golden
Sun, January 30th, 2005, 11:53 AM
I personally believe it's all marketing BS.

Green tea is good for you because of the green tea extract in it (some of which contains caffeine). Green tea also contains a ton of sugar and carbohydrates (not that either is bad in moderate amounts), unless you get the lite version.

Green tea beverages have become extremely popular in the US, and the companies making green tea are making a ton of money (note all the spinoffs of green tea and what they claim to do next time you're at the store).

So they publish a report that tells you to drink more green tea and it'll increase your endurance and their bank accounts. Some of which is probably true, but that line that states that taking "high doses" of green tea extract does nothing is total bs.

A lot of the report does depend on context...am I taking a high dose of green tea while watching TV or running on a treadmill?

EDIT: Oh wait, I think maybe I just realized they are talking about the fact that you need to take it on a daily bases before you see any effect. You just can't take it once and expect to have good results the following day. You think that's what they mean?

Again it depends on the context. This report is marketing mainly towards people that drink green tea or are concerned of their diet thus the report concludes they should drink green tea. So your point only applies to the latter.

gravityhomer
Sun, January 30th, 2005, 12:49 PM
So they publish a report that tells you to drink more green tea and it'll increase your endurance and their bank accounts. Some of which is probably true, but that line that states that taking "high doses" of green tea extract does nothing is total bs.


The quote is a little confusing and I'm not sure how to interpret it. It could mean that multiple doses a day is better than a single dose per day.

OR, it could mean that taking GTE on a daily basis is better than the effects you will feel after a single dose. Meaning, don't expect to see amazing results after only one day or a few days. I suspect this is what they mean as he says, it is the long-term exposure of GTE that is needed. long tem definitely means longer than a single day.

Either way I don't think they are saying that taking green tea in liquid form multiple times a day is better than taking pills. I think they are just saying, take it daily, and over the long term you will see benefits. This is definitely not the first study on green tea, so I don't doubt it's effectiveness. If you seach the forum many threads discuss it and the rep from Kentnutrition has listed different studies.

I'll think I'll give it a try,

Hey LemonSong, is there caffeine in the pills?