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DuoJet
Fri, January 23rd, 2004, 10:54 AM
Seems like most of the protein supplements discussed are whey-based. Is there a compelling reason to avoid soy-based protein supplements?

andi
Fri, January 23rd, 2004, 11:08 AM
I have to say, ever since trying to be more careful about what I eat I have been seeing tons of conflicting information. Have you seen this page (http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/Intro.htm)?

I also did some reading about the paleo diet (http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html) (sorry, the page is screamingly yellow) which talks about the types of foods our bodies are evolutionarily designed for- and it doesn't include grains or beans (including soy) or peanuts which require cooking, and it doesn't include dairy. (So where did paleolithic man get his calcium, and why did he die at 35?)

It's entirely possible that these things that say "soy is bad" have something to do with why some folks steer away from soy, but I think some people also find that the whey tastes better.

DuoJet
Fri, January 23rd, 2004, 11:20 AM
I have to say, ever since trying to be more careful about what I eat I have been seeing tons of conflicting information. Have you seen this page (http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/Intro.htm)?

I also did some reading about the paleo diet (http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html) (sorry, the page is screamingly yellow) which talks about the types of foods our bodies are evolutionarily designed for- and it doesn't include grains or beans (including soy) or peanuts which require cooking, and it doesn't include dairy. (So where did paleolithic man get his calcium, and why did he die at 35?)

It's entirely possible that these things that say "soy is bad" have something to do with why some folks steer away from soy, but I think some people also find that the whey tastes better.

Very interesting. I've never heard all that negative stuff about soy (I guess the soy industry's ploy has worked), but soy-based foods have been a staple of many Asian cuisines for centuries, and my uneducated impression is that the nutritional impact is positive.

As for the paleo diet, I've heard this rationale before, and it doesn't hold much water. The hunter-gatherer epoch is a relatively small slice of human evolution, as any anthropologist will tell you, so I think it is not a good idea to hold it up as a high-water mark of human nutrition. And, as you point out, there's the die-at-35 thing.

Suzuhara
Fri, January 23rd, 2004, 11:27 AM
Hi everyone!

(So where did paleolithic man get his calcium, and why did he die at 35?)

Actually, dairy products don't help you raise your calcium intake, detonating more calciolysis processses and other well known problems, as hormone and intestinal disorders. :(
The paleolitic man got his calcium from where cows, horses and lambs get it, green and other vegetables. They died at 35 due to mortal illnesses and other problems related to the lack of technology.

Some "Green Protein" shakes taste ok and provide nice proteins as the whey ones (maybe a little less powerfull, but not that much.) :db:


Take care,

Suzu