I changed my 3 day split to 4 compound and 3 isolation exercises per day is that still to much isolation exercises it take me about 45-60 mins
thanks

list your routine.

list your routine.
Sun -TRICEPS/CHEST
Benchpress,db flys,db pullover,incline db press- compound
cable leaning ext,barbell overhead ext,1 arm tricep ext-iso

Tues back/biceps
bentover rows,t-bar rows, db 1 arm rows, lat pulldown-compound
barbell curls,concentration curls,close gap concent curls-iso

Thur-shoulders legs
pile db squat,db squat,romanian deadlift -compound
machine bench press,seatedbarbell press,flys,-iso

all are 3 sets of 8 and done at home

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Sun -TRICEPS/CHEST
Benchpress,db flys,db pullover,incline db press- compound
cable leaning ext,barbell overhead ext,1 arm tricep ext-iso

Tues back/biceps
bentover rows,t-bar rows, db 1 arm rows, lat pulldown-compound
barbell curls,concentration curls,close gap concent curls-iso

Thur-shoulders legs
pile db squat,db squat,romanian deadlift -compound
machine bench press,seatedbarbell press,flys,-iso

all are 3 sets of 8 and done at home.

I don't talk splits, not sure what latest fad is. I wouldn't do it the way you choose. You sure will work your triceps in that first day and you really work biceps second day.

On the choice of exercises, I don't know what a pile db squat is. Are why you chose a machine bench press for shoulders. I am going to assume the flys on thurs are really lateral raises.

I couldn't stand up to 96 chest reps, If I used weights of any real size and follow them with 72 reps for triceps, done in 21 sets. How long does it take you? I think you are overworking yourself. Same for every day.

I bold all compound exercises.

Dagoon, it looks like it ers on the side of too much volume to me.

guidlines:

Small muscle groups: 6-8 sets
Large Muscle grops: 9-12 sets

three exercises per muscle group should be plenty..

I don't talk splits, not sure what latest fad is. I wouldn't do it the way you choose. You sure will work your triceps in that first day and you really work biceps second day.

On the choice of exercises, I don't know what a pile db squat is. Are why you chose a machine bench press for shoulders. I am going to assume the flys on thurs are really lateral raises.

I couldn't stand up to 96 chest reps, If I used weights of any real size and follow them with 72 reps for triceps, done in 21 sets. How long does it take you? I think you are overworking yourself. Same for every day.

I bold all compound exercises.

OKAY NOW I,M REALLY CONFUSED WHERE CAN I FIND THE PROPER WEIGHT TRANING ROUTINE I'M 47 YEARS OLD I'M NOT LOOKING TO BODYBUILD JUST INCORPARATE WEIGHTS WITH DIET

THANKS

OKAY NOW I,M REALLY CONFUSED WHERE CAN I FIND THE PROPER WEIGHT TRANING ROUTINE I'M 47 YEARS OLD I'M NOT LOOKING TO BODYBUILD JUST INCORPARATE WEIGHTS WITH DIET

THANKS

I think your routine is quite good if your not using heavy weights to build up.
It should work well with lighter weights to kep you toned.
I've been using a similar routine for the last month and it is a bit much as im working with heavy weights and the second muscle group tends to be too tired to give 100%.
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OKAY NOW I,M REALLY CONFUSED WHERE CAN I FIND THE PROPER WEIGHT TRANING ROUTINE I'M 47 YEARS OLD I'M NOT LOOKING TO BODYBUILD JUST INCORPARATE WEIGHTS WITH DIET

THANKS

I think most of us don't want to compete. But even me at my age wants to bodybuild or build muscles.

Max-OT is a popular program. You can download the 65 page manual from John's area of site. Body for Life is a good program, the book by Bill Phillips. Men's health has many book workouts available.

I think Ellington Darden (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dstripbooks%26field-keywords%3Dellington%20darden%26results-process%3Ddefault%26dispatch%3Dsearch/ref%3Dpd%5Fsl%5Faw%5Ftops-1%5Fstripbooks%5F4242713%5F2/104-1206378-7298333)'s HIT program is great for anyone, quick and effective. I believe in it for its logic. He has many books to choose from.

I am one that believes in picking a program to follow that is complete spelled out in detail in written form. There is nothing like a good book to use as reference. A number of program even covers diet, so they are a one stop package

I think your routine is quite good if your not using heavy weights to build up.
It should work well with lighter weights to kep you toned.
I've been using a similar routine for the last month and it is a bit much as im working with heavy weights and the second muscle group tends to be too tired to give 100%.
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OKAY MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU I AM 6'2" AND WEIGH 290 with a beer gut DOES THIS CHANGE YOUR ANSWER as far as keeping me toned I have not reached that point yet I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT WEIGHT ROUTINE FOR THE PAST 11 MONTHS I'VE BEEN LIFTING I CHANGED MY ROUTINE SO MANY TIMES I DON,T KNOW WHICH WAY TO TURN???????? I'M A OVER THE ROAD TRUCK DRIVER SO I WORKOUT ONLY WHEN I GET HOME. I READ IN JOHN'S FORUM FULLBODY FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS THEN GO TO SPLIT ROUTINE EVERYTHING I LEARN IS FROM THIS WEB SITE STILL CONFUSED !!!!!!!THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING WILL BE WAITING FOR REPLY

OKAY MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU I AM 6'2" AND WEIGH 290 with a beer gut DOES THIS CHANGE YOUR ANSWER as far as keeping me toned I have not reached that point yet I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT WEIGHT ROUTINE FOR THE PAST 11 MONTHS I'VE BEEN LIFTING I CHANGED MY ROUTINE SO MANY TIMES I DON,T KNOW WHICH WAY TO TURN???????? I'M A OVER THE ROAD TRUCK DRIVER SO I WORKOUT ONLY WHEN I GET HOME. I READ IN JOHN'S FORUM FULLBODY FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS THEN GO TO SPLIT ROUTINE EVERYTHING I LEARN IS FROM THIS WEB SITE STILL CONFUSED !!!!!!!THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING WILL BE WAITING FOR REPLY

Darden is for full body. I don't think they are as good but splits won't hurt you. All those I mentioned should be look at. Stop at a good book store and you will see most. Or go to Amazon.com and browse.

Cutting or bulking, 5' 4" or 6' 2", male or female, they all can use the programs. The diet is what decides where your body goes.

Btw: Cut off caps, people think you are shouting and don't care for it.