Hey,

I'm 266, 21 years old, 5'10" and have about 25-30% bodyfat :( Been weight lifting off and on since I was about 14. However, I need to lose some weight.

So what do you think is best for cutting? CKD (keto) or maybe the 40/40/20 split? I have done the CKD thing before and lost a little weight and gained it back (273 to 243 back to 266) so it worked sorta (took me 1 1/2 months to do that). I initially got off CKD b/c of my hectic work and school schedule (50-60 hours of work per week plus a part time student).

I also have considered the 40/40/20 thing. However, it seems to take a lot more time crunching numbers doing so. I guess John Stone's cutting plan was like a 40/40/20 thing or something?

Thanks for your help!

Oh, and I now try to go to the gym 4-6x per week and doing cardio 4ish times per week (sometimes I'll do weight lifting and come back a few hours later and do cardio, etc.). Thanks again!

In late 99, I did straight low carb to lose my 70lbs and then when I started working out around 2001, I tried both CKD and TKD. I felt like absolute crap after the CKD carb up day, so I stuck with TKD...for a while. I was skinny with a little muscle after a few months, but I knew I could do better. I did tons of research and realized that carbs weren't necessarily the enemy, so I switched to a balanced 40/40/20 and have been with it since, with great results (imho). I think it comes down to a few things. If you want the quicker results, I would have to say keto is the way to go, from my experience. Of course with quick loss can come quicker gains if you are not disciplined. If I could do it all over again, I would have done the balanced approached instead. Lost way too much muscle that way.

Jason

A caloric deficit is best.

I've lost 30 pounds in 12 weeks doing a 40-40-20 split, like Body-for-LIFE, and I've lost 30 pounds in 12 weeks doing a high carb (300g per day) and low protein (only 90g per day) program. I've had clients lose on high, low, and everything in between.

CKD can certainly raise your metabolism - I did something similar with a client recently and raised his metabolism over 300 calories in a week and a half (in other words, according to the software tracking his progress, simply through shifting his macronutrients, we managed to allow him to eat 300 calories more to achieve the same results). The reason I did this was because his calories were so low, I wanted to raise his metabolism to give a better starting point.

The best question for you is this - for the amount of weight you have to lose, it's going to take time. So you need a program you are comfortable with. Whichever program you enjoy the meals more and feel you can stick with most consistently, is the one you should go for. I have never had someone lose more than about 3 pounds of fat per week (if they lose more rapidly, the extra is typically water and/or muscle weight) but as far as those 3 pounds per week, I've done it successfully with CKD, with higher protein, and with even high carb vegetarian diets, and it's always been more the total calories than the macronutrient breakdown that mattered.

Jeremy

Hey,

I'm 266, 21 years old, 5'10" and have about 25-30% bodyfat :( Been weight lifting off and on since I was about 14. However, I need to lose some weight.

So what do you think is best for cutting? CKD (keto) or maybe the 40/40/20 split? I have done the CKD thing before and lost a little weight and gained it back (273 to 243 back to 266) so it worked sorta (took me 1 1/2 months to do that). I initially got off CKD b/c of my hectic work and school schedule (50-60 hours of work per week plus a part time student).

I also have considered the 40/40/20 thing. However, it seems to take a lot more time crunching numbers doing so. I guess John Stone's cutting plan was like a 40/40/20 thing or something?

Thanks for your help!

Oh, and I now try to go to the gym 4-6x per week and doing cardio 4ish times per week (sometimes I'll do weight lifting and come back a few hours later and do cardio, etc.). Thanks again!

Awesome, thanks for the help! :) I'll continue to think over this more and while doing still eating clean/dieting. :cool: