View Full Version : John, 'All The Whey' question for you


gravityhomer
February 11th, 2004, 06:09 PM
I see they have two kinds, the concentrate isolate blend and the isolate. I searched the forum to see what these mean. I now know the difference between them content-wise. The first one is like 80% protein with some fat and carbs mixed in. The second is pure protein. However I could not find a reason for why pure isolate would be better than the blend, performance-wise. The amount of protein per serving for the two kinds by All the Whey is 24 g vs. 26 g. This alone is definitely not a reason to pay so much more for the pure kind.

I’m sorry if this has already been asked and answered, but I just couldn’t find it. if someone has the answer could you let me know.

John, how come you are going to use the pure kind?

Also for a beginner like me probably just go with the cheap stuff, no?

John Stone
February 11th, 2004, 08:56 PM
I see they have two kinds, the concentrate isolate blend and the isolate. I searched the forum to see what these mean. I now know the difference between them content-wise. The first one is like 80% protein with some fat and carbs mixed in. The second is pure protein. However I could not find a reason for why pure isolate would be better than the blend, performance-wise. The amount of protein per serving for the two kinds by All the Whey is 24 g vs. 26 g. This alone is definitely not a reason to pay so much more for the pure kind.

I’m sorry if this has already been asked and answered, but I just couldn’t find it. if someone has the answer could you let me know.

John, how come you are going to use the pure kind?

Also for a beginner like me probably just go with the cheap stuff, no?
Whey concentrate is great stuff, but I've always wanted to try an isolate because it has more protein per serving, higher biological value and less "inert" ingredients like lactose. I've heard whey isolate really helps prevent the bloating and gas that many people report having with concentrate. Sometimes I get bloated feeling from the concentrates, so I'm really anxious to see how the isolate does for me.

akm3
February 11th, 2004, 09:15 PM
Are these products that someone who is 'cutting' should be taking or is for people who are 'bulking'?

:confused:

corbint
February 11th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Are these products that someone who is 'cutting' should be taking or is for people who are 'bulking'?

:confused:
doesnt matter if you are cutting, bulking, maintaining, aging, dying, whatever... if you are in need of some protein grams in your diet, hit up a shake or two a day. its an easy way to get protein without a crapload of fat and/or carbs. if your diet is perfect and you dont need any protein, rock on, but ill hit up shakes for the convenience factor any day! plus, liquid helps post-workout to get the nutrients to your muscles quicker!

Champagne
February 11th, 2004, 11:10 PM
Did anyone check out the link to the Whey Protein Institute? There is an Ingredient Details list of numerous Whey products on the market (6 pages). I noticed that the All The Whey concentrate is listed as only a concentrate and not as both concentrate and isolate, as some are. I'm only on my second 5 lb jug of protein whey so I'm relatively dumb on this subject, but the brand I'm taking (Vitamin World) is listed as both concentrate and isolate, which is what is on the product label. Just curious why the Whey Protein Institue did not show All The Whey Concentrate as having both concentrate and isolate? I'd be curious as to what the label says.

makstaks
February 12th, 2004, 01:19 AM
The other plus about Isolate is that it gets absorbed much faster. They work great as a post-workout shake. Concentrate can be used as a slower release protein...maybe a morning shake or a pre-workout shake. I just ordered isolate today in vanilla, chocolate, and unflavored. I can't wait to get it. I'm really happy that john came across this...i stuck with ON double chocolate whey because of cost and taste...but i couldn't stand to put it in water. This stuff is a great deal and i am looking forward to testing it in water and other recipes.

dtricome
February 12th, 2004, 01:50 AM
Hi,

Somebody told me about Champagne's post.

It's a mistake. The flavors are a blend. The unflavored is a concentrate.

Thank You,

Dom Tricome
dtricome@allthewhey.com

SCHTEEVIE
February 12th, 2004, 02:23 AM
Hi,

Somebody told me about Champagne's post.

It's a mistake. The flavors are a blend. The unflavored is a concentrate.

Thank You,

Dom Tricome
dtricome@allthewhey.com

wuuuh? :confused:

so you don't offer unflavored isolate? but your website says you do...?

John Stone
February 12th, 2004, 10:54 AM
wuuuh? :confused:

so you don't offer unflavored isolate? but your website says you do...?
I think he's saying that the unflavored blend is just whey concentrate, while the other flavors are a blend of concentrate and isolate.

The isolates, including the unflavored, are all pure whey isolate.

rein
February 12th, 2004, 12:20 PM
I think he's saying that the unflavored blend is just whey concentrate, while the other flavors are a blend of concentrate and isolate.

The isolates, including the unflavored, are all pure whey isolate.

That is the way I read it. :p

John

I know you are getting a little heat from a few people about the banner ad's. Just want to say I for one am glad you brought All They Whey onboard as it has made a protein supplement's inexpensive enough for me to add them to my diet without worry about cost. Now I can stop eating so much cottage cheese. :claphigh:

djerickd
February 12th, 2004, 12:36 PM
dtricome, can we get some sort of JSFF group buy discount?

That would ROCK :bow:

dtricome
February 12th, 2004, 12:45 PM
Hi,

Somebody told me about another thread that leads me to the following:

The best process and most common for whey is ultra/microfltration. Isopure uses ion exchange, because it was the first technology, and they sold the heck out of it. So, they are not going to upgrade. Here's why not to use it, plus it's expensive. The following article is not written by us: http://www.allthewhey.com/Comparing_nutritional.htm

Cross Flow Microfiltration (CFM) is a copyrighted term like All the Whey. It's the same as ultra/microlfiltration. It's a great marketing gimmick. Most companies that sell it state a high protein percentage. They don't include the moisture in the calculation.

So, most whey protein is similar to ours. Some are equal in quality. A lot are cut with sugar to yield a lower protein percentage. Also, some don't include the moisture....

Thank You

dtricome
February 12th, 2004, 12:51 PM
Hi,

Our prices are already cheap. I'm sorry, but we are not going to discount them any further.

Thank You

djerickd
February 12th, 2004, 01:24 PM
You are right you guys are cheap! It was worth a shot :p

My next bottle of protien will come from allthewhey.com!